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#69868 - 20th May 2004 11:35pm New Laws : Tinted Window's *****
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Registered: 9th Nov 2003
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BLACKOUT BLITZ


VOSA, working with a number of police forces, has begun a blitz on
drivers with illegally tinted windows.

The crackdown follows concerns over the
number of vehicles being driven with heavily
tinted windscreens and front side windows.
These restrict the driver’s vision, especially in
dark conditions.
Stopping drivers
Both the police and VOSA are now stopping
vehicles with tinted windows and checking the
Visual Light Transmission (VLT) through
windscreens and side windows. If the light
getting through is less than is legally required,
the driver may be prohibited from using the
vehicle until the tint is removed. Motorists who
don’t rectify the problem may be prosecuted.
The legal limits for window tinting are a
minimum of:
● 70 per cent VLT for side windows
● 75 per cent VLT for windscreens on
vehicles first used after April 1985 and
70 per cent VLT for those first used prior
to that date.
VOSA Enforcement Examiners will normally
remove prohibitions of this nature at Goods
Vehicle Test Stations by prior arrangement
with the owner. This is a departure from the
normal clearance procedure of putting
vehicles through an MOT.
Stopping retailers
Any retailer displaying vehicles with
over-tinted windows for Sale is committing
a number of offences. Neil Cumming,
Roadworthiness Project Manager for VOSA,
points out, ‘Section 77 of the Road Traffic
Act 1988, as amended, makes it an offence
for any person to supply or offer for Sale a
motor vehicle in an unroadworthy condition.’
Neil went on to explain, ‘Section 76 makes it
an offence for any person to fit, or cause or
permit to be fitted, a vehicle part which
would, by reason of the fitting of that
part, constitute a contravention of any
construction and use requirements.’ So some
retailers and tinting companies could find
themselves with a prosecution on their hands.
The simplest solution
But why is tinting not included in the MOT
test? Alan Wilson, head of VOSA’s Testing
Standards Policy and Strategy branch advised,
‘Excessively tinted glass is seen as a marginal
issue currently affecting a small number ofvehicles in relation to the 24 million tested
annually. To impose the £300 to £500 cost of
equipment on each of the 18,000 garages
could be seen as disproportionate in road
safety benefit terms. The time taken to test all
cars would have to increase and so would the
MOT fee, to account for the additional time
and investment in specialist equipment.’ For
this reason, VOSA has chosen to target
problem vehicles at minimum inconvenience
to compliant road users.
Spread the message
If you know a tinting company who fits tints
to front windows, or a retailer that sells these
vehicles, pass the message on or they may find
themselves prosecuted. If one of these vehicles
comes in for test, let the driver know – you
may save someone’s life on a dark night.

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#69869 - 20th May 2004 11:39pm Re: New Laws : Tinted Window's
Scooby Offline
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Found another report on this topic also.

The Vehicle and Operator Services Agency (VOSA) has started a blitz on drivers who have illegally tinted windows. The crackdown follows concerns that have been raised over the number of vehicles being driven with heavily tinted windscreens and front side windows. Many drivers do not realise that their vision is significantly impaired when looking through tinted glass and are often unaware that heavy tinted glass is illegal.

VOSA are now stopping vehicles with tinted windows and checking them for opacity using specialised equipment. If the windows are found to be over the legal tint limit the vehicle will be prohibited and cannot be driven until the tint is removed.

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Motorists who do not rectify the problem will be prosecuted.

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#69870 - 21st May 2004 12:45am Re: New Laws : Tinted Window's
Ando Offline
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Registered: 7th Jan 2004
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Well it's dangerous, so it should be checked. It's like driving a car with no seatbelts, or with the axel hanging off wink
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#69871 - 21st May 2004 1:08am Re: New Laws : Tinted Window's
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Registered: 9th Apr 2004
Posts: 102
Loc: upton
i agree ando...one easy way around it is to tint the rear, and rear sides, still looks cool, and doesn't cost as much!
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#69872 - 21st May 2004 1:33am Re: New Laws : Tinted Window's
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Loc: Birkenhead, Wirral.
I would agree "Limo Black" cound be dangerous at night especially. Mine are lighter tints on the front which only cause me a problem in a dark area that is totally unlit, Obviously when this occurs i simply lower both front windows at one touch of a button. Appart from that its fine.

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#69873 - 21st May 2004 3:55pm Re: New Laws : Tinted Window's
mikebroomy Offline
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Registered: 20th Nov 2003
Posts: 3041
Loc: moreton
don't really have much of an opinion on this 1 folks. but i do kno taz got pulled last night and had to remve his front tints.
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#69874 - 21st May 2004 11:01pm Re: New Laws : Tinted Window's
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Registered: 2nd Dec 2003
Posts: 2943
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well i agree with the law as usaual NOT!!!!!
Scooby? does that mean that i an goosed then or will i get away with it?????????? limo black on the back 5 windows and dark smoke on the front two? get back to me <img border="0" alt="confused" title="" src="graemlins/cwemotions051.gif" />

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#69875 - 22nd May 2004 12:39am Re: New Laws : Tinted Window's
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Sorry matey, i do not have a light meter to asses anyone's car. The only safe option is to remove your front window tints or drive around wiv ya windows open <img border="0" alt="[are u mad]" title="" src="graemlins/cwemotions050.gif" />

As far as i can gather a normal <img border="0" alt="[police]" title="" src="graemlins/cwemotions032.gif" /> cannot ask you to remove your tints or threaten to impound your car unless he has a light meter to asses to percentage of light in your vehicle.

I think only VOSA have these meters at the roadside check set up across the wirral, (Cammell Lairds is a common road check).

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#69876 - 22nd May 2004 1:10am Re: New Laws : Tinted Window's
Sarah Offline
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Registered: 27th Nov 2003
Posts: 495
Loc: anywhere!
Tz (Tony in the cav) got caught re the above the other night, he had to take his front one's off.
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#69877 - 22nd May 2004 1:40am Re: New Laws : Tinted Window's
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Registered: 9th Apr 2004
Posts: 102
Loc: upton
u rite scooby only VOSA with rozzers assistance can make u remove tints...and not without a light meter.
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#69878 - 22nd May 2004 11:43pm Re: New Laws : Tinted Window's
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My friends m8 had her whole car tinted black black apart from the front which was smoked. The police ripped her front side tints out and she is now taking them to court.

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#69879 - 23rd May 2004 2:23am Re: New Laws : Tinted Window's
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Posts: 102
Loc: upton
they can't get away with that! i used to have a mark 5 escort...limo black on rear, and rear sides...dark smoke on front, and never got pulled!! they need VOSA to check with light meter b4 they can do anything!
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#69880 - 23rd May 2004 11:22am Re: New Laws : Tinted Window's
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Registered: 9th Nov 2003
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Loc: Birkenhead, Wirral.
I am NOT Sure on the date this come into effect however it is only recently that this is being enforced strictly.

Be carefull about your normal <img border="0" alt="[police]" title="" src="graemlins/cwemotions032.gif" /> or even a Traffic <img border="0" alt="[police]" title="" src="graemlins/cwemotions032.gif" /> attempting to remove your tints or prosecute you without the use of the correct equipment (Light Meter). Some of them think what they say goes, NOT !!!!!!!!

I would certantly contest any officer attempting to remove my tints ot prosecute me without the use of a light meter......

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#69881 - 25th May 2004 8:03pm Re: New Laws : Tinted Window's
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Registered: 11th Dec 2003
Posts: 78
Loc: Oxton
From wot ive heard it came into affect from the 1st of jan this yr an at the moment its only a guy on a bike pulling people.
Ive also heard that the police can do woteva they want to u cos nothing has been set down in court on wot the procedure for punishing people is.
However i was spking to the guy down at vinyl-grafix an hes found a film that looks like 20% but gives the 70% VLT reading for em to be legal.

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#69882 - 25th May 2004 9:15pm Re: New Laws : Tinted Window's
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Loc: Birkenhead, Wirral.
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Ive also heard that the police can do woteva they want to u cos nothing has been set down in court on wot the procedure for punishing people is.
Dont allways listen to what you hear.

If there has been nothing set down in court how can VOSA possibly impound ya car then ????

Also if nothin has been put down in court how can a police officer do anythink he likes ????? A police officers job is to "Enforce the Law" therefore it must be law !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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