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#671701 - 1st Mar 2012 8:45am Messed up my laptop like an idiot. Salvage?
DeanoBirko Offline
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I installed Windows 7 onto my lap top on Tuesday, worked fine, no problems. Because im a bit anal, i was bugged by 10gb of unpartitioned space so I tried to expand C: into the space. Windows wouldnt let me do it.

I did a deep scan of the space and it was empty, no bootload on it or anything, just wasted space. In between that and C: is the boot partition.

Anyway, I installed Partition Magic and stupidly merged the boot partition, unallocated space and C: together.

The computer starts and then says "Cant find boot sector" (Or words to that effect)

So, i do a clean install of windows 7 and its going ok until around 30% then the dvd drive stops and the hdd starts making a clicking sound. I leave it for 10 mins and its stuck on 30%, mouse doesnt move etc.

So I turn off, let it cool down, try again. This time installation gets to 4% and does the same thing.

I turned it off about 1am, went to bed. Couldnt sleep, got up about 7 this morning and had another go. Now it wont boot from DVD, it wont eject and isnt responding. When i press the eject button it makes a sound as though its trying to open but doesnt.

Im pissed off.

Do I need to get a new HDD and try to boot from dongle or is there an easy fix to get the DVD to start loading again.

I dont want to buy a new HDD if the problem is the CD...

Thanks

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#671704 - 1st Mar 2012 8:52am Re: Messed up my laptop like an idiot. Salvage? [Re: DeanoBirko]
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Firstly, calm down, if there was nothing on there to lose, then you shouldn't stress so much yet, and you don't know what the fault yet (I know it's gut-reaction to think the worst, but try not to). Even if it is your HDD, at least you've lost no valuable data, and they are fairly cheap to replace (despite the recent increase in prices) and this is the perfect situation to find out your hard drive is dying - nothing worse than finding out when you have data on there (that may not have been backed up for a while/ever lol).

Initially, whilst the click HDD is not a good sign, it could also possibly be that the DVD disc is goosed. Does it have any scratches or is it pristine? How old is it, is it original, or is it a copy?

Do you have any old Windows/Linux discs, or access to a DVD burner?

Let's take it one step at a time, plenty of us on here will be able to help you don't worry.

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#671706 - 1st Mar 2012 9:08am Re: Messed up my laptop like an idiot. Salvage? [Re: DeanoBirko]
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While you're answering Matt's questions, in the future avoid Parition Magic. That software sucks. When it does work (and it doesn't often) it seems it didn't provide you with a warning when you merged your boot sector with the system drive ..
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#671708 - 1st Mar 2012 9:09am Re: Messed up my laptop like an idiot. Salvage? [Re: DeanoBirko]
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Thanks mate, thankfully, havent lost anything. Just dont want to be splashing out on a new laptop!

The DVD itself is new so no scratches etc. DVD stopped spinning and booting up yesterday.

Dont have access to a portable DVD without paying a shop (Which I want to avoid unless absolultley necessary).

Are laptop HDD's easily swapped out? Can I stick a second hand one in there if I can get one?

Laptop is about 5 years old, Advent P.O.S but its alright for what I need it for.

Cheers mate.

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#671709 - 1st Mar 2012 9:10am Re: Messed up my laptop like an idiot. Salvage? [Re: DeanoBirko]
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Yeah, will probably avoid that program in future!!

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#671710 - 1st Mar 2012 9:13am Re: Messed up my laptop like an idiot. Salvage? [Re: DeanoBirko]
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I have a USB DVD drive you could borrow?

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#671711 - 1st Mar 2012 9:14am Re: Messed up my laptop like an idiot. Salvage? [Re: DeanoBirko]
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Is the Windows 7 legit (I notice the laptop is 5 years old, should be Vista at best, originally).

Generally, laptop HDD's are pretty easy to swap, except on the likes of Dell and Zoostorm netbooks etc lol. Most Advents from that era were built by ECS iirc, so I'd imagine it would be quite straightforward.

But you really need to verify that it isn't the DVD at fault first, before you go changing the HDD (unless you have a spare knocking about of course lol).

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#671712 - 1st Mar 2012 9:14am Re: Messed up my laptop like an idiot. Salvage? [Re: DeanoBirko]
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Very easily swapped out. It's as simple as undoing the screws for the HDD enclosure and pulling out the old one and then (carefully) slotting in the new one. Some can be a bit fiddly when you need to connect the tiny little screws but most are easy.
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#671713 - 1st Mar 2012 9:18am Re: Messed up my laptop like an idiot. Salvage? [Re: ex0__]
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Originally Posted By: ex0__
While you're answering Matt's questions, in the future avoid Parition Magic. That software sucks. When it does work (and it doesn't often) it seems it didn't provide you with a warning when you merged your boot sector with the system drive ..

Add to that Paragon Partition Manager 9... dunno why, but I still use it, and it's downright awful software haha!! To say it has fatal flaws would be an understatement, you have to have your wits about you if performing any crtitical tasks to avoid data loss lol.

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#671714 - 1st Mar 2012 9:21am Re: Messed up my laptop like an idiot. Salvage? [Re: DeanoBirko]
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Chris... Where abouts are you?

Windows 7 is torrented (Although it worked fine up until messing up the partition)

I wanted to reclaim the 10gb recovery partition because the drive is only 120gb and it was getting full. Thankfully I backed everything up before trying the partition.

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#671776 - 1st Mar 2012 12:56pm Re: Messed up my laptop like an idiot. Salvage? [Re: DeanoBirko]
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Maybe you need the drivers for the DVD which has been wiped,Do you have the drivers disc for your laptop it should include all drivers for your wireless network and M/board,
If you don't have the Driver disc then I would try it again and just leave it as long as it takes(judder or not)with out the drivers it takes for ever but once loaded you can download all necessary drivers via Windows update job done

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#671780 - 1st Mar 2012 1:09pm Re: Messed up my laptop like an idiot. Salvage? [Re: DeanoBirko]
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Say what? The problem is his hdd is busted, it has nothing to do with drivers. Drivers only come into the equation once the OS is installed and he can't get that far. It'd bluescreen before it finished the installation, especially if the drive is clicking like he says it is.
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#671781 - 1st Mar 2012 1:18pm Re: Messed up my laptop like an idiot. Salvage? [Re: DeanoBirko]
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Its clicking because it wont recognize the DVD disc just a thought

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#671783 - 1st Mar 2012 1:25pm Re: Messed up my laptop like an idiot. Salvage? [Re: DeanoBirko]
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Ya it will, it gets to the point that it's installing windows and then fails. The disk and it's contents are fine the problem is writing to the hdd.
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#671785 - 1st Mar 2012 1:48pm Re: Messed up my laptop like an idiot. Salvage? [Re: DeanoBirko]
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Sounds like bad sectors on your HDD, that clicking is the acctuator arm bouncing around.
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