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#658222 - 25th Jan 2012 12:37pm MP demands best houses be given to behaved familie
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Mersey MP demands best houses be given to best-behaved families




SCARCE social housing would be awarded to people who can prove they are good citizens, under a Bill put forward by a Mersey MP.
And housing associations would face punishment if they failed to tell tenants that they were being offered a home next to a “neighbour from hell”.
Frank Field, the Labour MP for Birkenhead, said his Bill would kick-start a "Herculean effort to change the welfare state, so it ceases to penalise decent citizens in the way it now does".
And he warned that change was badly-needed to retain public support for the ever-more-costly welfare system, as it "crashed through the £200bn mark", for the first time.
At present, council and housing association homes are allocated to families in need, because they are homeless, ill, or live in overcrowded, or unfit, conditions.
Mr Field told MPs that those criteria should still exist, but should be trumped by a "good citizenship test", that would allow families to jump to the top of the waiting list.
These might be families who worked hard, volunteered in their local community, or who had an exemplary record as tenants in their existing homes.
Mr Field said: "I have one simple objective in mind – to put in pole position the good citizen in respect to the allocation of the decent and best housing association homes."
The most common complaint at his constituency surgeries came from families who worked and brought their children up well – yet missed out on homes in decent areas, he said.
Meanwhile, the Bill was also needed to close a loophole that meant only homeowners – not social landlords – were required to pass on information about problem families nearby.

Warning that tenants could be dumped next door to a neighbour from hell "without any warning whatsoever", Mr Field said: "This will protect good citizens from those chaotic families that cause, literally, such misery.
"The Bill will give all tenants the right to be consulted in such circumstances, the right to object and the right to a legal redress."
Mr Field's Housing (Amendment) Bill – which he outlined in his ECHO column last Saturday – was granted a second reading on March 30, but has little chance of becoming law due to a lack of parliamentary time.
However, it echoes proposals put forward by Labour leader Ed Miliband to allow town halls to deny council homes to people who fail to work, volunteer or be "good neighbours".
Councils in Manchester and London already consider "contribution" when drawing up housing waiting lists, rewarding volunteering and neighbourliness, as well as work.


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#658224 - 25th Jan 2012 12:42pm Re: MP demands best houses be given to behaved familie [Re: ]
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Even the bad asses have to live somewhere. In the old days they all found their own level and people knew where they were and either went to live in the same areas or shipped out to somehwere else out of the way. Some pillock then decided that they should be dispersed throughout the community regardless and now nearly everyone is blighted at some time or other, that's progress for you.
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#658239 - 25th Jan 2012 1:06pm Re: MP demands best houses be given to behaved familie [Re: ]
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Very true Bandy....

But if you are fortunate enough to qualify for the benefit state, I think there are different problems for different people - the main difference being those that want to work and cant or are unable, and those that dont want to work.

The latter are generally the people you wouldnt want to live next to - workshy urchins that like to bleed society dry and at the same time pollute that very same society.

TBH Im quite surprised the new benefit reforms havnt yet removed the right for these problem cases to be entitled to the right to bleed the rest of the good population dry.
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#658278 - 25th Jan 2012 3:37pm Re: MP demands best houses be given to behaved familie [Re: ]
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Aye, but never mind Stuy, once we go Shariah it'll all be sorted out.

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#658383 - 25th Jan 2012 7:15pm Re: MP demands best houses be given to behaved familie [Re: StuyMac]
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TBH Im quite surprised the new benefit reforms havnt yet removed the right for these problem cases to be entitled to the right to bleed the rest of the good population dry.


Part of the purpose of the welfare state is to reduce crime, if you have a load of people that do not have income or benefits then crime levels will soar.
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#658552 - 26th Jan 2012 7:30am Re: MP demands best houses be given to behaved familie [Re: ]
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this might work for council housing .. macmaster propertys moved a family of nine next door to me knowing that they had an asbo order they put us through hell for 3 years ,some of these big private landlords dont give a crap as long as they get the huge rent at the end of the month

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#658561 - 26th Jan 2012 9:13am Re: MP demands best houses be given to behaved familie [Re: ]
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I know of a family evicted from their house and now living in a brand new house given to them by the council.

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#658575 - 26th Jan 2012 10:27am Re: MP demands best houses be given to behaved familie [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Originally Posted By: StuyMac
TBH Im quite surprised the new benefit reforms havnt yet removed the right for these problem cases to be entitled to the right to bleed the rest of the good population dry.


Part of the purpose of the welfare state is to reduce crime, if you have a load of people that do not have income or benefits then crime levels will soar.


Her Majesty runs some very big properties to house those people, 3 meals a day as well. They only trouble is that they are getting too well appointed.
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#658639 - 26th Jan 2012 1:33pm Re: MP demands best houses be given to behaved familie [Re: BandyCoot]
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