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#642804 - 26th Dec 2011 10:13am Birkenhead shops and offices plans 500 jobs?
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MORE than 500 jobs could be created in a major new shopping and office development planned for Birkenhead.

New shops and offices are proposed for a largely unused site behind Birkenhead Central railway station, on the edge of the town’s main shopping district.

It would follow the opening of a major new Asda store in Birkenhead town centre and the massive expansion of call centre group The Contact Company, creating hundreds of new jobs, earlier this year.

The proposals, which should revitalise an area which has been derelict for years, were last night welcomed by Birkenhead and Tranmere Cllr Phil Davies, Wirral Council’s cabinet member for regeneration.

Cllr Davies said: “We have been trying to develop that area between Birkenhead Central station and through to the A41, trying to come up with a good plan for a regeneration scheme for a number of years now.

“If we can make that happen at long last, it would be fantastic in terms of really lifting that whole part of Birkenhead, which is slightly on the periphery of the town centre.”

The proposal – put forward by National Grid Property Holdings and the Homes and Communities Agency – is for shops, offices, a restaurant, car showroom and a creche.

The scheme is due to go before the council’s first planning committee



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#642852 - 26th Dec 2011 2:17pm Re: Birkenhead shops and offices plans 500 jobs? [Re: paxvobiscum]
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Create 500 jobs?

Or is it the relocation of jobs leading to the abandonment of premises presently occupied elsewhere.

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#642933 - 26th Dec 2011 7:09pm Re: Birkenhead shops and offices plans 500 jobs? [Re: Silverback]
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and every job will be min wage,so none will be able to buy a house,while the owners bath in top end whisky and whipe there big fat bottoms with £50 notes mad

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#642981 - 26th Dec 2011 9:56pm Re: Birkenhead shops and offices plans 500 jobs? [Re: micsey]
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Originally Posted By: micsey
and every job will be min wage,so none will be able to buy a house,while the owners bath in top end whisky and whipe there big fat bottoms with £50 notes mad
lol micey your probably not a million miles away , smile

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#642984 - 26th Dec 2011 10:16pm Re: Birkenhead shops and offices plans 500 jobs? [Re: paxvobiscum]
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lets face it, the worlds doomed.
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#643060 - 27th Dec 2011 8:24am Re: Birkenhead shops and offices plans 500 jobs? [Re: Sanchez]
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your right its doomed,if everyone stoped watching sky News everything would be fine,i only watch it now and again to keep count on how many muslims have blown themselves up,not everyones cup of tea but this is how the world has shaped me mad

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#643092 - 27th Dec 2011 10:34am Re: Birkenhead shops and offices plans 500 jobs? [Re: paxvobiscum]
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I recently attended a forum at the Floral Pavilion along with 400 other local businessmen. The reason we had been invited there was to learn about an investment programme of some 400 million pounds-most of it from the private sector to assist in the creation of new jobs in the Wirral. Turns out that most of the money will be going to "consultants" who will "advise and help" small businesses to grow. Hardly any of it will go directly to small businesses. Now-I may be talking rubbish on this-but I've love to be shown how I'm wrong!! The money should all go directly to the people who work hard and make real sacrifices, both personal and family, often using their own equity in their house to raise funds to start a business. Whilst many of these businesses fail in the first twelve months-and this seems to be the argument for using consultants, many other businesses are started by highly-experienced people who just want to "go it alone" and become very successful. It is these businesses, run by people with a proven track record of success within an organisation, who have the balls to risk everything, who should be supported financially by grants. Sadly, this seems not to be the case and I fear that most of the money will be wasted on inflated salaries and expenses for these so-called business consultants. The worst thing too, for an employer is to find that, having worked his/her socks off to create jobs, they find themselves embroiled in reams of paperwork and, worse still, having to deal with "attitudes" of employees who think that the world owes them a living. There's no such thing as "a right to work". If there were no entrepreneurs willing to take a chance on their knowledge and experience, there wouldn't BE any jobs!! THEY are the people who need the money most. (RANT OVER-timed at 10.35.)


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#643103 - 27th Dec 2011 11:14am Re: Birkenhead shops and offices plans 500 jobs? [Re: FiremanFil]
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There's no problem in handing out grants as long as they are paid back, which becomes a loan. I don't believe in giving grants as a freebie, if a company is successful they should be paid back regardless of how many extra people they may employ.

As for people starting businesses and risking everything, they do it to make money for themselves and employ people to make more money for themselves, hence the reason workers are discarded when they don't make enough money out of them or for their shareholders, perhaps a sensible policy but don't try and make them out to be Angels, there few and far between.
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#643115 - 27th Dec 2011 11:39am Re: Birkenhead shops and offices plans 500 jobs? [Re: paxvobiscum]
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Fair comment, Bert. As usual you make a solid argument. Unfortunately, the system breaks down because people aren't honest. I agree with the business of loans-but interest rates are crippling and unattractive. Banks are animals. The old adage about banks is true, isn't it. They'll lend you an umbrella when the sun is shining. As soon as it rains, they want the umbrella back!!Grants should be paid back interest-free. How do you think every corner shop in England has a foreigner running it? They get interest-free loans of the mosque to start up. All they have to do is pay a percentage of their income back to the mosque. Why don't we do that? Only instead of using religion-use the government. And I still stick to my guns about the attitude of employees. Most are only interested in themselves-and not in their companies. Would an employee risk his wages to help a company grow? No-because the employer wouldn't ask him to. Would an employer risk his house to create jobs? Answer: Yes-just look around you. That's the cultural difference between employer's thinking and employee's thinking.
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#643122 - 27th Dec 2011 12:13pm Re: Birkenhead shops and offices plans 500 jobs? [Re: paxvobiscum]
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Weatherspoons is a very successful franchise. One of the major reasons for their rise as one of the fastest-growing companies in the UK is that they offer shares to their employees. That's got to be a way forward, don't you think, Bert? :-)
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#643147 - 27th Dec 2011 1:10pm Re: Birkenhead shops and offices plans 500 jobs? [Re: FiremanFil]
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A fair days work for a fair days pay, it has to be remembered it works both ways, successful companies rely on a happy workforce and the best way to keep a happy workforce is through good remuneration and a fair working practice, in return those employees will endeavour to make the business successful, in turn the employer will be happy and profit. If the workers are shareholders and they profit from profits, it can only be a good deal.
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#643172 - 27th Dec 2011 4:29pm Re: Birkenhead shops and offices plans 500 jobs? [Re: paxvobiscum]
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Agreed-but unfortunately, the bigger a company grows, he less personal contact it has between it's directors and it's staff-and, most importantly of all, it's customers.. This is where the insidious negativity grows within an organisation. Companies like "virginanything" in my view are the worst examples of this. They put impossible burdens on their staff to hit targets, which results in misinformation to their customers in order to obtain sales. Next comes the threatening letters and the lawsuits when customers refuse to pay because they have been conned. I could go on-but I'm sure you're with me all the way.
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