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#586378 - 21st Sep 2011 10:55am Road name on Pillar
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Not sure if this has been on before. The pillar is on the corner of Elm Grove and Whetstone Lane, Birkenhead.
Any ideas on it?


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#586407 - 21st Sep 2011 11:28am Re: Road name on Pillar [Re: bert1]
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St Josephs Road ?

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#586417 - 21st Sep 2011 11:35am Re: Road name on Pillar [Re: Colgo]
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Originally Posted By: Colgo
St Josephs Road ?


Could be Colgo,was Elm Grove once called St Josephs Road?, the only other possibility is the pillar being from elsewhere, then again i would have thought the name plate would have been turned out of view.
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#586438 - 21st Sep 2011 11:52am Re: Road name on Pillar [Re: bert1]
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How did you spot that bert.
Thought you were deaf in one eye.
I took a couple of pics of the letterbox last week and didn't notice.
St Joseph rd not in 1916 street directory

Possibly something to do with convent? that was around that
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#586476 - 21st Sep 2011 12:24pm Re: Road name on Pillar [Re: derekdwc]
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Derek, I'm not deaf in one eye, I'm blind in one ear. I can't take the credit for finding anything, the other day one of our alcoholic/druggie friends was rocking on his heels looking up at it. I'm not sure if he was looking at the sign or checking if there was an upstairs light on, anyway I've walked past it on a regular basis for 38 years and not noticed it. As you know the convent was opposite, if it is St Josephs, is that the link.
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#586480 - 21st Sep 2011 12:31pm Re: Road name on Pillar [Re: bert1]
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Looking at my pics - not too sure if the sandstone wall had been faced like the pillar and in my first pic at the bottom of the pillar looks like some of the facing has come away showing sandstone underneath

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#586489 - 21st Sep 2011 12:45pm Re: Road name on Pillar [Re: bert1]
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name of convent
off 1888 map posted by MARK


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#586502 - 21st Sep 2011 12:55pm Re: Road name on Pillar [Re: derekdwc]
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A chapel in the convent was called St Joseph's

http://www.holthillconvent.co.uk/convent.php
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#586506 - 21st Sep 2011 12:58pm Re: Road name on Pillar [Re: bert1]
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Great spot. Also never noticed that in 20 years. Very likely to be associated the convent as has been said, which had its origins in St Joseph's Mission.

http://www.stjosephsbirkenhead.co.uk/history_FCJ_Holt_Hill.asp

Furher checks of older maps might reveal a mention as 'St Josephs Road' but it may have just been a local nickname carved fo the convent. I think...

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#586507 - 21st Sep 2011 1:00pm Re: Road name on Pillar [Re: bert1]
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OR.. it could be that they recycled that post and stuck it there in later years

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#586512 - 21st Sep 2011 1:09pm Re: Road name on Pillar [Re: DanLongman]
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Recycling did cross my mind, but from where and when? possibly from inside the convent grounds?,
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#586516 - 21st Sep 2011 1:15pm Re: Road name on Pillar [Re: bert1]
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I'd guess. Any nuns on here?

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#586528 - 21st Sep 2011 1:23pm Re: Road name on Pillar [Re: bert1]
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Looks like Joseph's road to me ?
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#586531 - 21st Sep 2011 1:26pm Re: Road name on Pillar [Re: bert1]
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sherlock ?


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#586543 - 21st Sep 2011 1:37pm Re: Road name on Pillar [Re: Nelzy84]
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Vandal, wink
now we need to know, whats its doing there and why?
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