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#572975 - 31st Aug 2011 3:52pm Any advice please
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i just got home to a rejection letter from morrisons

worse thing is, life at work could get bad for me now as they had requested ref off ex work collegue which i know was good,
but also off my manager...
who i know now will make my life hell at work once she finds out...

she said she did a really good ref..(which i do deserve as always on time, do my work etc)
but how do i know she did?
as she is the type one day she likes you, next day hates and picks on you...

off tomorrow but admit a bit worried about work now...

can i ask for a copy of the ref that she sent to morrisons?

as need to know if it was good/bad as need to apply for other jobs?

thanks


Edited by free_spirit (31st Aug 2011 3:53pm)

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#572979 - 31st Aug 2011 4:04pm Re: Any advice please [Re: free_spirit]
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oh i am really sorry to hear this, i really thought you would be in with a chance for a job...


i would definatly ask for a copy of the letter and ask morrisons for some feedback as to why you didnt get offered a job with them...

hope something comes up for you soon

xx

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#572980 - 31st Aug 2011 4:04pm Re: Any advice please [Re: free_spirit]
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im so sorry you got the worst News both my daughter and her boyfriend got theirs too. i would think you could persuade morrisons to give you a copy of the letter explain your boss is being an arse after they requested them, the feed back would be helpful

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#572982 - 31st Aug 2011 4:07pm Re: Any advice please [Re: free_spirit]
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I don't think an employer isn't allowed to give a 'bad' reference, if they don't want to write anything nice about you then they can merely write things like '**** was employed within the company from ????-????'
Don't quote me on that but its what my manager said his legal advisor told him when he wanted to write that an ex collegue was always late, off ill and had no respect for authority (apparently classed as slander) :s

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#572983 - 31st Aug 2011 4:08pm Re: Any advice please [Re: arwen444]
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yes i think i will ring morrisons tomorrow
does anyone have the number?
and who i would ask for?

i had my interview the first week, wednesday and they requested my ref on the friday of same week...and now made me wait 6 weeks.. frown


Edited by free_spirit (31st Aug 2011 4:08pm)

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#572984 - 31st Aug 2011 4:10pm Re: Any advice please [Re: ema_lou]
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Originally Posted By: ema_lou
I don't think an employer isn't allowed to give a 'bad' reference, if they don't want to write anything nice about you then they can merely write things like '**** was employed within the company from ????-????'
Don't quote me on that but its what my manager said his legal advisor told him when he wanted to write that an ex collegue was always late, off ill and had no respect for authority (apparently classed as slander) :s


oh dear...i'm never late, was off ill 3 times in 5 years..2 times being one day each
then last year with a bad chest infection, took 2 days then strugled back in.

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#572985 - 31st Aug 2011 4:12pm Re: Any advice please [Re: ema_lou]
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Originally Posted By: ema_lou
I don't think an employer isn't allowed to give a 'bad' reference, if they don't want to write anything nice about you then they can merely write things like '**** was employed within the company from ????-????'
Don't quote me on that but its what my manager said his legal advisor told him when he wanted to write that an ex collegue was always late, off ill and had no respect for authority (apparently classed as slander) :s



yeah this is right, an employer can not give out bad feedback and can only say that a person worked for the company...

smile

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#572986 - 31st Aug 2011 4:17pm Re: Any advice please [Re: free_spirit]
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#572987 - 31st Aug 2011 4:18pm Re: Any advice please [Re: WLH27]
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Originally Posted By: WLH27
0151 357 1074


as far as i know stuart kempster is the one dealing with the recruitment...

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#572988 - 31st Aug 2011 4:19pm Re: Any advice please [Re: free_spirit]
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I was under the impression that prospective employers only asked current employers for a reference if they were going to offer the job. Makes anyone think twice before putting their current boss down as a referee.

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#572989 - 31st Aug 2011 4:21pm Re: Any advice please [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: CrocodileDundee
I was under the impression that prospective employers only asked current employers for a reference if they were going to offer the job. Makes anyone think twice before putting their current boss down as a referee.


i agree totally...

i am gonna get the brunt of her when i she finds out...

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#572990 - 31st Aug 2011 4:33pm Re: Any advice please [Re: free_spirit]
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Have just had a lovely chat with stuart..

feeling little better now...
just on way out explain more later

thanks guys x

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#572994 - 31st Aug 2011 5:08pm Re: Any advice please [Re: free_spirit]
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Really sorry to hear this, I was hoping it would be good News for you. I also would have thought they would have waited until there was the offer of a job before contacting your current employer. Please let them know how much difficulty this has caused you and let them know if they are looking for any future people that you would be available. Don't forget not everyone is going to be able to accept their offers due to hours or whatever so they might be coming back to people they have rejected.

Sorry to hear about this.

xxx

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#573000 - 31st Aug 2011 5:32pm Re: Any advice please [Re: free_spirit]
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Originally Posted By: free_spirit
Originally Posted By: CrocodileDundee
I was under the impression that prospective employers only asked current employers for a reference if they were going to offer the job. Makes anyone think twice before putting their current boss down as a referee.


i agree totally...

i am gonna get the brunt of her when i she finds out...

Just tell her you were after extra hours if anything is said. I don't think they can make your life hell over a reference. Employment law isn't my area, but I doubt it'd be legal.

I always put "references available on request" instead of names. I know some ask for references before offering a job if it's to whittle people down i.e. you may have 3 people who were equally good in interview & on paper but it may come down to what ex employer has to say. It's a shit trick but they're the ones offering the job so they can do it I guess.
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#573010 - 31st Aug 2011 6:29pm Re: Any advice please [Re: free_spirit]
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I would not feel too disappointed ATM as there are a few people who already work for morrisons who have also been rejected for transfers from other morrisons stores, Ellesmere Port, West Kirby etc to New Brighton.
New Brighton will be running with a skeleton crew initially and will almost certainly re-recruit when/if things pick up after the store has been fully operational for a while.
Morrisons tend to mostly offer part time contracts first before they are prepared to increase from say 16,25 hours to full time 39 hour contracts.

PB




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