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#554825 - 1st Aug 2011 9:54pm can any1 help me??
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i got arrested 4 months ago my car got searched by the police as they took my car key out my property at the station i got let out the police station on bail but i never got my car key bac i was ringing the officer who i got arrested by and she had admitted to losing my car key 4 month later after 1000s of fone calls and getting messed around the car is stil there the taxed has ran out and i am goin to have to pay to get it towed away to put in storage wat obvs i am gona have to bill the police 4 can any1 give me any info on this because there just messin me around realy

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#554829 - 1st Aug 2011 10:07pm Re: can any1 help me?? [Re: LIVERPOOL1234]
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Hi Joel,

Really sorry to hear about your bad luck, I am surprised it has gone on for so long really. I would have been at the station the next day until they gave me the car with a new key!!

Anyway please go to the Independent Police Complaints commission website where you can fill in an complaint form online.
http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/
The website seems to be down for some reason at the moment. Keep trying. Also pop into your local CAB with any paperwork you have from the incident.

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#554862 - 1st Aug 2011 11:00pm Re: can any1 help me?? [Re: Sallybear]
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As above, I would go the CAB in Liscard

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#554872 - 1st Aug 2011 11:43pm Re: can any1 help me?? [Re: LIVERPOOL1234]
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uno wat the police r like sayin 1 officer has got it then the next then 1 finaly admitted she had lost it there a pain realy coz if it was any1 else doin wrong the police wud be down on use like a tun of bricks lol thanks 4 ur help i wil give them a try smile

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#554886 - 2nd Aug 2011 12:29am Re: can any1 help me?? [Re: LIVERPOOL1234]
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Now I wouldn't suggest this is the BEST way to do it, but it will certainly get the fastest results.
If you were to call the station tomorrow and say that you're at the County Court to apply for a CCJ against the officer for your costs and just need to know when she'll be on duty so the bailiff can serve it on her.
Police Officers can't have CCJ's, big no no, so obviously they're going to want to avoid this.... you might find that they'll arrange for new locks to be fitted for you, same day laugh

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#554890 - 2nd Aug 2011 12:43am Re: can any1 help me?? [Re: LIVERPOOL1234]
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hahahah thanks i wil try thak 2morro smile

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#554892 - 2nd Aug 2011 12:57am Re: can any1 help me?? [Re: LIVERPOOL1234]
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Originally Posted By: JOELMC1234
hahahah thanks i wil try thak 2morro smile

U steve leylands cousin?
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#554894 - 2nd Aug 2011 1:13am Re: can any1 help me?? [Re: LIVERPOOL1234]
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Originally Posted By: _Ste_
Originally Posted By: JOELMC1234
hahahah thanks i wil try thak 2morro smile

U steve leylands cousin?


Was thinking that too, dont think it is, i should be seeing joel (stes cousin) tomoz so will find out. wink

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#554895 - 2nd Aug 2011 1:27am Re: can any1 help me?? [Re: LIVERPOOL1234]
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hahahha who r all u people lol

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#554896 - 2nd Aug 2011 1:28am Re: can any1 help me?? [Re: LIVERPOOL1234]
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raftl

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#554935 - 2nd Aug 2011 9:04am Re: can any1 help me?? [Re: LIVERPOOL1234]
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Yours isn't the red car that was parked in Westminster Road for months was it?

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#555346 - 2nd Aug 2011 11:53pm Re: can any1 help me?? [Re: TheDr]
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How exactly is he going to get a CCJ from the county court and the bailiffs on him?

To get a CCJ, there first has to be a court appearance, through the Small Claims Court, then he will have to win the case, then they will be asked to pay, only then if they don't pay will a CCJ be issued and the bailiffs sent in. Plus, the personal officer wouldn't be taken to court, it would be the police force as a whole.

It's not as easy as you make out, and the police will know that you are chatting shi*

First thing to do is go down and demand to speak the Sergeant in charge. If you get no joy with him, then you can go to the IPCC, Independent Police Complaints. Keep all receipts for any costs you have incurred.

If you were innocent, then try contacting the papers to shame the police into coming to a deal. "Police wrongly arrested me and lost my car keys". Doesn't work as well if you were guilty though.

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#555353 - 3rd Aug 2011 12:28am Re: can any1 help me?? [Re: peodude]
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You attend the County Court (or go online depending on the value) to make a small claim, you can get the bailiff to serve the summons (or use a process server) to ensure that they get it, they then have 21 days in which to reply or make a counter claim. If they do it can go to a full hearing, if not it may then go before a County Court Judge who can make a judgement in default after hearing no evidence from the defendant (the service by a bailiff ensuring that they cannot later claim not to have received it).

If they wanted a full breakdown of how to obtain a Court Summons and possibly get a CCJ then a tongue-in-cheek comment on how to get things moving wouldn't really have been the best place, it wasn't intended as a breakdown of how to do it, just exactly how it was intended, a light-hearted look at how even when you think someone has the deck firmly stacked against you there is always a way to turn the table in your favour.


Originally Posted By: peodude
How exactly is he going to get a CCJ from the county court and the bailiffs on him?


Simples, see above

Originally Posted By: peodude
To get a CCJ, there first has to be a court appearance, through the Small Claims Court, then he will have to win the case, then they will be asked to pay, only then if they don't pay will a CCJ be issued and the bailiffs sent in. Plus, the personal officer wouldn't be taken to court, it would be the police force as a whole.


No there doesn't have to be an appearance, the paperwork can all be done without anyone present, especially if no contest is made to the claim.
A CCJ is a Judgement against them, they will have a limited time in which to pay.
The bailiff can serve the original summons, you do pay extra for this.
You can make a claim against anyone for any reason, it may not succeed and the officer can request that it be made against the force but you CAN make a claim against the officer in person as it was she who lost the keys.

Originally Posted By: peodude
It's not as easy as you make out, and the police will know that you are chatting shi*


A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, and for some that little can be a minute amount smile

Originally Posted By: peodude
First thing to do is go down and demand to speak the Sergeant in charge. If you get no joy with him, then you can go to the IPCC, Independent Police Complaints. Keep all receipts for any costs you have incurred.


Personally I'd ask for the Duty Inspector as the Sergeant wouldn't have the authority to have someone resolve the situation the same day.
IPCC don't really deal with that area, you'll probably find that the Professional Standards are a better place to look for help in something like this.
If the police have locksmiths they can call on, if they do all the work there wont be any receipts, and them doing it is cheaper than having to pay you for it being towed away first. But do keep anything else it has cost you, taxi rides etc.

Originally Posted By: peodude
If you were innocent, then try contacting the papers to shame the police into coming to a deal. "Police wrongly arrested me and lost my car keys". Doesn't work as well if you were guilty though.


I always thought a person was innocent until PROVEN guilty, and even if they WERE guilty (of who knows what), what difference does that make to who is responsible for losing the keys ?

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