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Originally Posted by GrandMasterFlash
Yeah exactly, and if you've got kids and you're moving house then you should know about the area, why should an offender's identity be protected at the expense of another child being abused?


There's a name for this kind of fallacy.

Perhaps if that's the way you feel you should rally together the other paranoid parents and get the government to release a formal database, instead of supporting the tool at C.H.R.I.S who does it in the worst way possible.


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Originally Posted by GrandMasterFlash
Yeah exactly, and if you've got kids and you're moving house then you should know about the area, why should an offender's identity be protected at the expense of another child being abused? The problem is people go round beating them up but again, no one makes someone abuse a kid so it's their own fault!

Whether or not there should be a national database, is irrespective; I agree with ex0 that websites like this should be removed at the first instance; unless it is an official government website, the information provided can never be trusted, and thus there will always be the chance someone is attacked or even killed, simply because someone didnt like them, or they shared the same name, or even looked like an offender on the website.

They have a system in America (Megans Law or something like that) and the parents of Sarah Payne have campaigned for many years for a similar system in this country; that is the correct way to go about it, and I don't think there should be any unofficial sites lurking around giving potentially inaccurate and dangerous information to the general public. Personally, were such a site hosted on one of my services, id utilise my terms and conditions of service provision, to reserve my right to terminate the service and refund the monies paid, it's simply too risky to have websites like this on the net, and morally, well it would not sit comfortably knowing that someone had been/could be injured or even killed, simply because of a mistake on a website such as this, that I was supporting.

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As far as Im aware, having been out of the formal Child Protection field for a couple of years now- there is a form of Sarah's Law available.
A concerned adult may approaach police with their suspicion/query, and within Data Protection guidelines, they can be told a yes/no answer as to whether that person has any sex crime convictions.
So technically, a young mum could discreetly ask whether her new boyfriend had a murky past she should know about etc. All that would be given is a yes/no answer, once the request has gone through official channels.
This system may not be 100% foolproof but does limit the chance for error or vigilante action against an innocent party.

And last I heard, Thompson was living quietly somewhere with an older male partner who was aware of his past and was willing to accept him for the person he is now today.
So, maybe one success for rehabilitation, and one failure.


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anything that safeguards children from dirty perverted individuals is great in my book...well done C H R I S for highlighting and naming and shaming these pieces of .......

children have rights in society and so do parent and carers..to ensure all reasonable steps are carried out to PROTECT innocent children...

as for the comments regarding the police/govt body plz dont make me laff ...there was 14 missed opportunities from social workers, police, doctors, health visitors, teachers etc that could of saved victoria climbie's life....it is due to her that we have amendments to the childrens act 2004...and the every child matters framework....

the govt bodies failed victoria and baby p...the govt bodies are a joke


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Originally Posted by ex0__
Originally Posted by GrandMasterFlash
Yeah exactly, and if you've got kids and you're moving house then you should know about the area, why should an offender's identity be protected at the expense of another child being abused?


There's a name for this kind of fallacy.

Perhaps if that's the way you feel you should rally together the other paranoid parents and get the government to release a formal database, instead of supporting the tool at C.H.R.I.S who does it in the worst way possible.


i'm a bit confused by your attitude to this, are you trying to say that child abuse doesn't realy happen as often as people think?

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Originally Posted by Volly
ALL sex offenders, not just peado's, should be shipped off to a remote island somewhere and be left to do whatever they want to each other.

Wouldn't be too long before they started killing each other in sick sex acts e.t.c.

I ( as a father of 3 ) certainly don't want any within 100 miles of my kids.

Haven't made my mind up about the C.H.R.I.S. site yet - not been on it but from what I've read on here, it does sound pretty dangerous if the wrong "nutter" gets the wrong end of the stick about somebody who shares the same name as an offender.
On the other hand, I'll probably have a look at the site on Monday when it's back up for my own satisfaction that I don't know any of them - Won't be going around giving them a kicking if it turns out that I do though. They've served thier time and been punished - the arguement about whether they've been punished enough isn't down to "joe public" to decide.
The law states what happens to them and as has been said many a time, the law is an ass!!

If I win the Euromillions, I'll buy an island myself to ship them all to - then we can all live and relax without fear of them being around.


Let me put this to you then mate, I know for a 100% fact that were you are (wall village/Licard way) there is a convicted nonce. Im not sure how I stand with regards to the law as I dont think his name or story was published in the paper so I wont give his name to you, as much as it would give me sheer pleasure to out him in here as he is a MAJOR member (Forum Addict)of this WIKIWIRRAL forum. What I will say is this, he abused two 11 year old boys and was served with a HEFTY sentence of wait for it folks......30months. He served just under 20 months and has to sign the register for life. How the hell is that justice? The two 11 year olds he abused are now adults and one of them has been suffereing from depression for the best part of 15 years to a point were he tried commiting suicide twice and will probably be on anti depressants for the rest of his life. It also stopped him working and after 12 years is finally coming off sickness benefits to work for himself.
So tell me, has the dirty little barstard served enough punishment? Are you happy that he probably see's your kids everyday and maybe even taken a photograph of them? (He takes pictures by the way. That is a FACT)
This dirty little nonce barstard has a lot of people fooled in these forums and other forums too. No one I assume, knows his past and seem to think he's a swell guy. Well, he isnt. He is pure evil. Believe me, I wouldnt want to kill him. That is too quick. A damn good kickin would do it but it would have to be everyday for the rest of his life until he had enough then ended it himslef. Not before his business goes under and his friends and family who dont know about his past are informed just so he can have some mental anguish too. That I reckon would give me pleasure. Just.
God, I hope he reads this just so he knows that someone is on to him. And I also have proof by the way that gave his release date from prison and the name of the two lovely detectives that arrested, interviewed and charged him so what I am saying is not slander, bullshit or incitememt to violence. It is pure 100% FACT that can be backed up if im backed into a corner. Ive not gave away his name, so im legally correct (I think) in telling people what I am aware of.
Oh, its not EXO as far as im aware. JOKE exo before you get your knickers in a knot

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tbh I reckon a lot of the judges who hand out leniant sentences are suspect. I genuinly feel sorry for the judge that gives a maximum sentence that he is ALLOWED to give but is accused of being suspect.
Case I know, the judge gave the absolute max he could give and told the dirty barstard that if he could have, he would have gave him a hell of a lot longer.
Its the law makers and who ever it is that makes the sentences to an equivalent of a petty crime sentence need to be looked at closely.

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Originally Posted by MattLFC
Originally Posted by GrandMasterFlash
Yeah exactly, and if you've got kids and you're moving house then you should know about the area, why should an offender's identity be protected at the expense of another child being abused? The problem is people go round beating them up but again, no one makes someone abuse a kid so it's their own fault!

Whether or not there should be a national database, is irrespective; I agree with ex0 that websites like this should be removed at the first instance; unless it is an official government website, the information provided can never be trusted, and thus there will always be the chance someone is attacked or even killed, simply because someone didnt like them, or they shared the same name, or even looked like an offender on the website.

They have a system in America (Megans Law or something like that) and the parents of Sarah Payne have campaigned for many years for a similar system in this country; that is the correct way to go about it, and I don't think there should be any unofficial sites lurking around giving potentially inaccurate and dangerous information to the general public. Personally, were such a site hosted on one of my services, id utilise my terms and conditions of service provision, to reserve my right to terminate the service and refund the monies paid, it's simply too risky to have websites like this on the net, and morally, well it would not sit comfortably knowing that someone had been/could be injured or even killed, simply because of a mistake on a website such as this, that I was supporting.


You would honestly lose sleep if a nonce was found with his throat slashed from ear to ear? who gives a shit if a few nonces get twatted or killed? I wouldnt. Id give the person who did it an alibi and put his name forwatd to be knighted.
Thing is with the C.H.R.I.S website is that every dirty barstard on there have been convicted and served and released from prison. There names were already in the public domain so whats the problem?
At the end of the day, if jimmy the perv from Wrexham moves to the wirral how the hell can we keep our kids safe without a website like C.H.R.I.S. The UK govt will never make a national database even though there has been some major cases in this country and the only people who seem to disagree with a need for a database is either the pervs themelves or 1960s hippy types who believe in LUUUUURVE maaaaaaan. fook That. Give me a baseball bat, a pitchfork and a burning torch any day of the week.

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You would honestly lose sleep if a nonce was found with his throat slashed from ear to ear? who gives a shit if a few nonces get twatted or killed? I wouldnt. Id give the person who did it an alibi and put his name forwatd to be knighted.
Thing is with the C.H.R.I.S website is that every dirty barstard on there have been convicted and served and released from prison. There names were already in the public domain so whats the problem?
At the end of the day, if jimmy the perv from Wrexham moves to the wirral how the hell can we keep our kids safe without a website like C.H.R.I.S. The UK govt will never make a national database even though there has been some major cases in this country and the only people who seem to disagree with a need for a database is either the pervs themelves or 1960s hippy types who believe in LUUUUURVE maaaaaaan. fook That. Give me a baseball bat, a pitchfork and a burning torch any day of the week.


Another fine example of the kind of people that this website attracts.


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You would honestly lose sleep if a nonce was found with his throat slashed from ear to ear? who gives a shit if a few nonces get twatted or killed? I wouldnt. Id give the person who did it an alibi and put his name forwatd to be knighted.
Thing is with the C.H.R.I.S website is that every dirty barstard on there have been convicted and served and released from prison. There names were already in the public domain so whats the problem?
At the end of the day, if jimmy the perv from Wrexham moves to the wirral how the hell can we keep our kids safe without a website like C.H.R.I.S. The UK govt will never make a national database even though there has been some major cases in this country and the only people who seem to disagree with a need for a database is either the pervs themelves or 1960s hippy types who believe in LUUUUURVE maaaaaaan. fook That. Give me a baseball bat, a pitchfork and a burning torch any day of the week.


Another fine example of the kind of people that this website attracts.





ex0....look at it this way ...it attracrs ppl like born to die who give a shit about kids and their innocence and also attracts dirty nonce on here like born2die says without mentioning any names....

born2die very brave of u to mention this...paedos are everywhere ....knocks me sick....and you are not alone iin your vigilantist ways towards nonces....they need torturing


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Still I dont get what the fuss is about surrounding the general use of the CHRIS website. Apart from him letting Venables new identity out every other person named on the site has been reported either in the national or local press.

It is not a place where people are put up on the site by rumour and all cases already exist on the internet if you look. It is simply a site that copies and pastes stories onto one site so worried parents/parteners can check if someone has been named and shamed alreday rather than seaching google for hours on end.

It also has countless advice section like spotting early signs, how to cope and where to turn for extra help plus many more advice sections. As a parent I do look and would never go and confront the sick evil perverts but at least I know who to look out for in my local area to help keep my kids as safe as possible.

I DO NOT know why he choose to name Venables new identity, personally I feel we DO HAVE A RIGHT to know who he is as rehabillitation obviously DID NOT work wheras with Thompson it seems to have so I would let him have his annominity if he stays clean for the rest of his life.

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the problem Diz is that people like exO believe these nonces have there human rights and think WE are too dangerous to know were they live and breath.
when people were making suggestions about exO last night i was ALMOST about to stand up for him/her. After reading there ignorant comment before, then I have my doubts on this person as well.
ex0, I am glad abuse hasnt affected you, seriously, but if it had then I reckon you would change your opinion on a few things.

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@rocketqueen, dont get me wrong, im not a vigilante. There has been a few cases were innocent blokes have been targeted and had the shit kicked out of them because A - they look like said nonce B - They share a simmilar surname or C - Nasty fuckers have spread rumours about them and it is a shame but I am in full support of the C.H.R.I.S website. There info is precise and already in the public domain. Credit to them for trying to keep all public records in the one site but someone high up as seen it as either a tool for good people to kick the shit out of the nonces or the people high up have another agenda.
anyway, love your name. Step daughters going to see guns 2 roses in few weeks. there supposed to be shit hot.

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Originally Posted by born2die
Originally Posted by Volly
ALL sex offenders, not just peado's, should be shipped off to a remote island somewhere and be left to do whatever they want to each other.

Wouldn't be too long before they started killing each other in sick sex acts e.t.c.

I ( as a father of 3 ) certainly don't want any within 100 miles of my kids.

Haven't made my mind up about the C.H.R.I.S. site yet - not been on it but from what I've read on here, it does sound pretty dangerous if the wrong "nutter" gets the wrong end of the stick about somebody who shares the same name as an offender.
On the other hand, I'll probably have a look at the site on Monday when it's back up for my own satisfaction that I don't know any of them - Won't be going around giving them a kicking if it turns out that I do though. They've served thier time and been punished - the arguement about whether they've been punished enough isn't down to "joe public" to decide.
The law states what happens to them and as has been said many a time, the law is an ass!!

If I win the Euromillions, I'll buy an island myself to ship them all to - then we can all live and relax without fear of them being around.


Let me put this to you then mate, I know for a 100% fact that were you are (wall village/Licard way) there is a convicted nonce. Im not sure how I stand with regards to the law as I dont think his name or story was published in the paper so I wont give his name to you, as much as it would give me sheer pleasure to out him in here as he is a MAJOR member (Forum Addict)of this WIKIWIRRAL forum. What I will say is this, he abused two 11 year old boys and was served with a HEFTY sentence of wait for it folks......30months. He served just under 20 months and has to sign the register for life. How the hell is that justice? The two 11 year olds he abused are now adults and one of them has been suffereing from depression for the best part of 15 years to a point were he tried commiting suicide twice and will probably be on anti depressants for the rest of his life. It also stopped him working and after 12 years is finally coming off sickness benefits to work for himself.
So tell me, has the dirty little barstard served enough punishment? Are you happy that he probably see's your kids everyday and maybe even taken a photograph of them? (He takes pictures by the way. That is a FACT)
This dirty little nonce barstard has a lot of people fooled in these forums and other forums too. No one I assume, knows his past and seem to think he's a swell guy. Well, he isnt. He is pure evil. Believe me, I wouldnt want to kill him. That is too quick. A damn good kickin would do it but it would have to be everyday for the rest of his life until he had enough then ended it himslef. Not before his business goes under and his friends and family who dont know about his past are informed just so he can have some mental anguish too. That I reckon would give me pleasure. Just.
God, I hope he reads this just so he knows that someone is on to him. And I also have proof by the way that gave his release date from prison and the name of the two lovely detectives that arrested, interviewed and charged him so what I am saying is not slander, bullshit or incitememt to violence. It is pure 100% FACT that can be backed up if im backed into a corner. Ive not gave away his name, so im legally correct (I think) in telling people what I am aware of.
Oh, its not EXO as far as im aware. JOKE exo before you get your knickers in a knot



Never said I agree with it - think you need to re-read my post again.

I hate them just as much as the next person, all I said was I hadn't made my mind up as to whether or not sites like that are a good idea.

I agree, they can never be punished enough - just not sure it's down to us as vigilantes.

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