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They are cowards, not the brave soldiers of the US Army who risk their lives to protect their country, but the administration. In fact, they are not just cowards, but they like to play the role of bullies too. They like to bully their way around in weaker nations - the biggest threat to US domination right now is China, but would they fook stand-up to China, because China would have none of it; so instead they go after terrorist/militant groups, and nations who can't fight back such as Afgahnistan and Iraq. They also back the biggest terrorist state on earth, aka Israel, and encourage them to invade and go after nations who do not have the ability or capacity to fight back (invading the likes of Lebanon due to a Syrian-backed militant group, causing humanitarian problems in the Gaza Strip for many years). They try to bully arab nations, usually with the goal of grabbing some oil, and then wonder why there is a hatred at worst, suspicion at best, of the US within the Arab/Muslim world.


This is my kind of argument against the U.S and, again us actually. We're helping the Libyan rebels, because they have oil. Wasn't this sort of rebellion happening in Burma not to long ago, but then, Burma doesn't have many, if any useful rescources so we'll let the weak get slaughtered by their government because it does no good to us.

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So your entire argument is that the Americans, supposedly representing the civilised world, should aspire to be no better than the guys that beheaded Eugene Armstrong?

Exactly, we in the west, cannot go around proclaiming to be a civilised and democratic society that shows compassion to our enemies and respects the Geneva convetion and IHL, and then carry out acts that our leaders publically condem when not carried out by themselves.

Regardless of who Bin Laden was/wasnt and what acts we stood accused of carrying out, if he were not armed, he should have been arrested and sent to trial.

There is a valid argument, in that not only have the US made him a martyr to other Arab/Muslin terrorists and militant groups by killing him, but they have also given him the easy way out, instead of making him face up to the terror he has (allegedly) caused to others.
Er, since when did we EVER show "compassion" to our enemies? In particular, the ones we are at war with? Have you ever heard of Dresden, by any chance? How many of the Dresdeners were checked for arms, or read their rights, or offered the chance to surrender?

Where DO you get this stuff from? What is it about WAR that you do not understand? It is not a game like cricket, played by gentlemen! GROW UP for goodness sake. There are just times when bad things have to be done that NONE OF US LIKES. If you do not like the decision that Obama made then TOUGH!

And "allegedly"????? ALLEGEDLY? What - do you REALLY think we have been after this guy (and he has been IN HIDING!!) for ten years, for something that he MIGHT have done??? - but we oh dear, we aren't too terribly sure and we'll need a Judge to rule on it before we can go INTO BATTLE????? Good grief man your political correctness becomes utterly laughable!

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You hide here mr Laden, we will take care of everything, just keep it on the low while we decide what to do next in our f***ed up plan. shh

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You hide here mr Laden, we will take care of everything, just keep it on the low while we decide what to do next in our f***ed up plan. shh

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He may still be alive but kept as a prisoner to be interrogated
about other terrorists and their whereabouts.
A story about his death to stop others running for cover before they can be scooped up.

Were any of the USA soldiers killed or wounded and were the remains of a helicopter in the compound Bin Ladens' or the
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I heard it was an American chopper. The SEALS themselves blew it up, after it suffered a 'mechanical failure'.

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I heard it was an American chopper. The SEALS themselves blew it up, after it suffered a 'mechanical failure'.


I read that while it was making a fast landing its tail rotor clipped a wall of the compound and was damaged enough that the heli couldn't take off. They destroyed it themseves to prevent the heli technology falling into enemy hands, there's been some speculation that the reason for this is that the helicopter was a modified version of their workhorse heli (blackhawk) equipped for stealth operations. It aparently had a sound muffler in the shape of a big disk by the tail rotor.


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withthat thanks for the more comprehensive reply. I wasn't too sure of the specifics. Ta.

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There's a fantastic programme from Al-Jazeera called 'I knew Bin Laden', worth watching if anyone is bored for 45mins (or interested in what Osama Bin Laden was really like). Loads of interviews with people that met him and spoke to him (even one of his bodyguards).

http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/general/2011/05/201151014338715787.html

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