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#501797 - 13th Apr 2011 4:40pm Brand New MG Rolls Out Of Longbridge
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True to SAIC's word, the first MG6 has rolled off the production line today!!

Originally Posted By: Sky News
A new MG sports car has rolled off the production line at Longbridge six years after the Birmingham plant closed with the loss of 6,500 jobs.

The MG6 fastback is the first all-new MG to emerge from the factory in 16 years. It was designed and developed at Longbridge, although partially-built in China for completion at the UK.

MG is owned by Chinese car company SIAC, which now employs around 400 people at the site.

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Labour MP Richard Burden, whose Birmingham Northfield constituency includes Longbridge, said: "Today is a real milestone for Longbridge and for the automotive industry in the West Midlands.

"Longbridge has been through dark days. Nothing will bring back the days when thousands were employed on Longbridge production lines" said Mr Burden.

He added: "But the greatest tribute we can pay to the heritage that made the name Longbridge synonymous with motor manufacturing throughout the 20th century is to build a future in the 21st Century."

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#501809 - 13th Apr 2011 4:56pm Re: Brand New MG Rolls Out Of Longbridge [Re: MattLFC]
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Excellent News! Turbo too! What a bonus smile
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#501812 - 13th Apr 2011 5:01pm Re: Brand New MG Rolls Out Of Longbridge [Re: MattLFC]
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Yer, tis good, but thats only to get the power up because the N-series engine is essentially a refined K-Series, and the K/N-replacement isnt ready yet.

160bhp but only 8.4s to 60, so not stunning performance!

Dunno if its a low-pressure turbo like the one found on the 75 1.8T or a proper turbo?!

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#501816 - 13th Apr 2011 5:13pm Re: Brand New MG Rolls Out Of Longbridge [Re: MattLFC]
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It's far too expensive and far too slow in my opinion.

I doubt it will sell very well but fair play to them for having a crack. 19,000 gets you a lot of car, with a lot of spec.

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#501820 - 13th Apr 2011 5:19pm Re: Brand New MG Rolls Out Of Longbridge [Re: MattLFC]
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Bit of a letdown the performance considering my astras 150bhp standard with 0-60 8 secs.
I'd expect a lot more for the money frown
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#501823 - 13th Apr 2011 5:24pm Re: Brand New MG Rolls Out Of Longbridge [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Alex85
It's far too expensive and far too slow in my opinion.

I doubt it will sell very well but fair play to them for having a crack. 19,000 gets you a lot of car, with a lot of spec.

Yeah, they should have turbocharged the VVC variant instead, the 160VVC that is! Or at least offered a high-performance version in addition to the 160 1.8, with the 143 VVC and the MGF-S supercharger bolted to it for ~230bhp.

In truth though, they needed the diesel engine at launch (2012 is too late) and the next generation of petrol engines they are currently developing (which are just getting more and more dlayed, they were saying 180bhp from a 1.5, with fuel economy to match, shows how weak the N-Series is nowadays, though to be fair, its 24 years old!).

The N will sound sweet as a nut, and im sure it will offer acceptable performance, but as it seems they are trying to position the MG6 and MG as a whole, as the sports brand (with the Austin brand returning at some point to position as the family brand), performance is everything.

Having said that though, the reviews are positive, and the Chinese... well lets be honest, they will, in time, make a success of of the marque, guaranteed. In fact MG and Roewe already are proving quite successful, as to whether it will linger in the UK too long, who knows, but I guess we live in hope that NAC/SAIC have invested too much time and money in the UK/European division, to pull out now.

They really need to follow the 6 up quickly with a car based on the Zero concept, and Austin badged variants of the Roewe W2 and 550 (or their replacements) by the end of 2013 would probably be more mainstream sellers??

It's just the start, id rather they have kept selling the ZT and the TF, or at least kept marketing the MG brand in the "dark years", during which nobody outside the motoring/MG fold, even knew that MG were still building cars, the TF in Longbridge... now they are in the position whereby they have no brand awareness, and a distinct lack of a thorough-enough lineup to have any significant impact on the market... one of the many problems that resulted in the failiure of MGR all those years ago!

Something positive for the locals of Longbridge to look forward to though!

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#501825 - 13th Apr 2011 5:34pm Re: Brand New MG Rolls Out Of Longbridge [Re: MattLFC]
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http://www.ford.co.uk/Cars/Fiesta/S1600

At 15.5k OTR and it's 1.6 134ps engine hitting 60 quicker than the above, it's kind of a no-brainer?

Not sure how large the MG will be?

Be interesting to see what happens anyhow.

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#501828 - 13th Apr 2011 5:37pm Re: Brand New MG Rolls Out Of Longbridge [Re: MattLFC]
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Hate to say it, but it looks terrible and them wheels sick
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#501831 - 13th Apr 2011 5:43pm Re: Brand New MG Rolls Out Of Longbridge [Re: MattLFC]
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Its built to compete in the Focus-sized arena to be fair... and all modern cars are slow(er) due to worsening (for us non-greeners at least) emissions regs.

I think it will end up a niche product tbh, unless they supplement it quickly, with more engine options and more models (the TF is hardly a credible model to call it a "line-up" lol, especially when the TF2 is nearing completion).

The Chinese are possibly entering the market cautiously at present, in 2006/2007 they were talking about launching with an MG3, MG5, MG6 and MG7 (even talk of launching the Roewe models in Europe - well western Europe as they have made it to Eastern-Europe), but then the recession hit in, the car industry went bang, and now we have just the MG6. Maybe they don't want to overdo it yet?

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#501836 - 13th Apr 2011 5:50pm Re: Brand New MG Rolls Out Of Longbridge [Re: MattLFC]
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I think it looks nice, I saw a silver one being tested. Pity it's not badged a Rover, think it would've been appropriate (I know this can't be done now).
It's just an everyday car not built for power. K/N-series is decent enough though. Let's hope HGF problem is sorted out. I hope it does well, it's the closest we'll get to a UK production car at the moment, and for Longbridge as well. smile
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#501839 - 13th Apr 2011 5:55pm Re: Brand New MG Rolls Out Of Longbridge [Re: MattLFC]
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Ive never heard of an N-Series suffering HGF, indeed it is one of the reasons they renamed it from the K-Series (as well as N being for Nanjing, and Rover never having had an N-Series previously), to lose the repuatation.

The last K'ers were generally HGF-proof, mainly thanks to Land Rover working out their MLS-orientated solution to the "problem".

I doubt the N-Series will last much longer anyway, it was years ahead of its time when it launched, with impressive amounts of power and a beautiful engine note to boot, but even 10 years ago, it just looked normal, not it is antiquated. As we know, its 24 years old, and they have had the replacements in development for some time. They best hope the general public don't hear too much about that though, else no interested parties will go near it, knowing a better engine is on the way lol. That's why the oil-burner should have been available at launch!!

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#501872 - 13th Apr 2011 7:54pm Re: Brand New MG Rolls Out Of Longbridge [Re: MattLFC]
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Looks to much like a Vauxhall Insignificant for my liking frown

...which is a shame really, as I wanted to like the looks of it, and I like the fact Rover where being brave with the idea of turboing the engine...





Price wise I think they may also struggle, unfortunatly they dont have the best reputation, and they will be up against some well established competition.

Lets hope they build them better than the Indian built "CityRover"!
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