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#490528 - 23rd Mar 2011 7:43pm petrol down 1p a litre
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What a joke, he puts petrol up 3p a litre 3 weeks ago and knocks a penny off in the budget the cheating bas**rd

THE BBC


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#490537 - 23rd Mar 2011 8:12pm Re: petrol down 1p a litre [Re: brady]
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1 Fooking penny, not worth the hot air from the lying cheating political gob!!!
Why bother?? somad
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#490538 - 23rd Mar 2011 8:13pm Re: petrol down 1p a litre [Re: brady]
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taken it off at the pumps but taxed the oil companies to compensate they will just put it back on their end !!!!!!!!!!
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#490554 - 23rd Mar 2011 8:53pm Re: petrol down 1p a litre [Re: johncon]
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#490596 - 23rd Mar 2011 9:49pm Re: petrol down 1p a litre [Re: brady]
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I think the petrol places knew this, most put a 1p price rise this morning, clever or cheating bar stewards???

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#490629 - 23rd Mar 2011 10:25pm Re: petrol down 1p a litre [Re: brady]
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Loads have done it, changed the signs, and then will change them back tomorrow.
I'm sure someone will be on to say how this is somehow a good thing.

1p really doesn't matter, who buys 1 litre of fuel anyway - you can't even buy a litre. It's like taxing ciggies, but raising it per cigarette.
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#490829 - 24th Mar 2011 7:48am Re: petrol down 1p a litre [Re: DavidB]
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pathetic, like thats a saving for anyone

this government needs hanging form a high jibb
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#490842 - 24th Mar 2011 8:20am Re: petrol down 1p a litre [Re: brady]
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Firstly, its an effective 6p per litre duty cut, since according to the old Labour system, it should have gone up 1p above inflation next week, which would have mean an extra 5p per litre.

Fuel was never put up by 3p per litre 3 weeks ago, it was increased by 1p per litre in January and that it is. VAT was increased to 20%, but for those with sense or an understanding of the EU VAT system, you will understand that there is a fundamental reason for this, and that is due to the fact each member state is only allowed 3 levels of VAT, with the UK choosing to utilize 0%, 6% and 20%. Considering how Darling has said a rise to 20% was a serious possibility, even a sniff of likelyhood to is, under a Brown-Darling government, then I fail to see any difference. In reality, we all know it would have gone up to 20% regrdless of government, given the financial shit were in.

This government, is the first in 18 years, to indefinately suspend the fuel duty escalator, unless oil prices return to a reasonable level. I didnt see Labour put an end to it - in fact, they increased the escalator to 6% the minute they got into power!

As always, its easy for those in opposition to critisize, because they don't need to have a credible or viable plan themselves. Millibpede and Balls-Brown were wrongfooted by the government yesterday, and stuggled to make a single comment relating to the 1p reduction, nevermind the suspension of the fuel escalator. - they obviously hadnt thought of it themselves.

And I take it all the above posters in this thread, won't be moaning about the cuts when they come in, since you all want to cut the tax revenue supply rather than pay for public services??

And for those that don't know or are politcally unaware, on of the fundamentals of Conservative ideology is low taxation, if any government is likely to lower your tax levels, it is a Conservative/Conservative-led government, not a Labour government.

Personally, id like fuel to hit 2.00 per litre, because it would force all the peasents off the road, and leave them nice and clear for me to use!! Selfish I know, but ive actually noticed a fair drop in traffic locally, in recent weeks! I eagerly await for the day when the roads are as quiet as they are in 60's TV programmes lol.

Anyway, these high fuel prices are helping everyone to be more green (whatever haha, but it keeps the green brigade happy).

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#490901 - 24th Mar 2011 9:47am Re: petrol down 1p a litre [Re: MattLFC]
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Originally Posted By: MattLFC
Firstly, its an effective 6p per litre duty cut, since according to the old Labour system, it should have gone up 1p above inflation next week, which would have mean an extra 5p per litre.

Fuel was never put up by 3p per litre 3 weeks ago, it was increased by 1p per litre in January and that it is. VAT was increased to 20%, but for those with sense or an understanding of the EU VAT system, you will understand that there is a fundamental reason for this, and that is due to the fact each member state is only allowed 3 levels of VAT, with the UK choosing to utilize 0%, 6% and 20%. Considering how Darling has said a rise to 20% was a serious possibility, even a sniff of likelyhood to is, under a Brown-Darling government, then I fail to see any difference. In reality, we all know it would have gone up to 20% regrdless of government, given the financial shit were in.

This government, is the first in 18 years, to indefinately suspend the fuel duty escalator, unless oil prices return to a reasonable level. I didnt see Labour put an end to it - in fact, they increased the escalator to 6% the minute they got into power!

As always, its easy for those in opposition to critisize, because they don't need to have a credible or viable plan themselves. Millibpede and Balls-Brown were wrongfooted by the government yesterday, and stuggled to make a single comment relating to the 1p reduction, nevermind the suspension of the fuel escalator. - they obviously hadnt thought of it themselves.

And I take it all the above posters in this thread, won't be moaning about the cuts when they come in, since you all want to cut the tax revenue supply rather than pay for public services??

And for those that don't know or are politcally unaware, on of the fundamentals of Conservative ideology is low taxation, if any government is likely to lower your tax levels, it is a Conservative/Conservative-led government, not a Labour government.

Personally, id like fuel to hit 2.00 per litre, because it would force all the peasents off the road, and leave them nice and clear for me to use!! Selfish I know, but ive actually noticed a fair drop in traffic locally, in recent weeks! I eagerly await for the day when the roads are as quiet as they are in 60's TV programmes lol.

Anyway, these high fuel prices are helping everyone to be more green (whatever haha, but it keeps the green brigade happy).


It would be nice to see the number of cars drop agreed. But come on matt. If fuel hit 2 you know as well as I do the bigger picture would be food costs shooting up, resulting in empty super markets (NO pheasants with trollies wink ), resulting in mass starvation. This what u want bud?
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#490910 - 24th Mar 2011 10:13am Re: petrol down 1p a litre [Re: brady]
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Whilst being unhappy about the price per litre, I do take some consolation from the prices around Europe. We also have one of the lowest prices in the UK due to our location near Stanlow(?), as the average UK petrol price is 1.32.9 and we are below that.

Here are some other european fuel prices as a comparison.

(Source - AA's monthly report - March 2011)

Country, Petrol/l, Diesel/l

Belgium 131.05 119.15
Denmark 144.51 132.63
Finland 139.05 118.71
France 136.87 126.45
Germany 140.09 125.23
Greece 138.44 120.88
Netherlands 145.92 122.22
Ireland 125.58 120.36
Italy 133.05 123.49
Luxembourg 113.93 104.11
Estonia 108.80 113.58
Norway9 157.26 150.66
Portugal 133.14 119.49
Spain 114.71 112.98
Sweden 134.16 136.66
Switzerland 122.25 131.18
USA 58.37 63.95

Still unsure why our Derv is more than petrol though, when it is consistantly lower over the rest of europe think

Maybe this doesnt justify why the price here is so high, but in comparison, we are quite lucky frown
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#491037 - 24th Mar 2011 3:05pm Re: petrol down 1p a litre [Re: brady]
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That's fine but it is even cheaper in Bahrain. At the end of the day whether it's petrol, food or any other commodity they will take off us as much as we are willing to pay and then bring the prices down when nobody pays. Remember an article from a bloke who wrote that his company would love to charge cheaper prices for golf clubs but if they did charge lower prices then golfers wouldn't pay for them because they would think they were crap, ergo, they have to keep the prices up. Funny thing the human condition.

Either way we have to get out of the crap that Mr Brown and Mr Balls left us in.


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#491041 - 24th Mar 2011 3:08pm Re: petrol down 1p a litre [Re: BandyCoot]
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Originally Posted By: BandyCoot
That's fine but it is even cheaper in Bahrain. At the end of the day whether it's petrol, food or any other commodity they will take off us as much as we are willing to pay and then bring the prices down when nobody pays. Remember an article from a bloke who wrote that his company would love to charge cheaper prices for golf clubs but if they did charge lower prices then golfers wouldn't pay for them because they would think they were crap, ergo, they have to keep the prices up. Funny thing the human condition.

Either way we have to get out of the crap that Mr Brown and Mr Balls left us in.

So true bud.
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#491139 - 24th Mar 2011 6:00pm Re: petrol down 1p a litre [Re: MattLFC]
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Originally Posted By: MattLFC
Firstly, .


Both are as bad as each other at managing money in this country, so it's really no good bringing up a Labour vs Conservative argument, it's in the hands of the current government to try to do something about it. If only they would.
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#491148 - 24th Mar 2011 6:19pm Re: petrol down 1p a litre [Re: brady]
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Loc: Liscard
My mate lives and works in Qatar. He put on his facebook last week "robbing b@stards have put the petrol prices up I'm now paying 17p a litre!!"

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#491171 - 24th Mar 2011 7:03pm Re: petrol down 1p a litre [Re: brady]
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He probably drills it out from under his garden raftl
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