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#475478 - 20th Feb 2011 1:23pm The Avenue, Egerton Street
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Hi, according to the probate record for my Husband's Great x 2 Grandfather, Thomas Trevena. he lived at 1, The Avenue, Egerton Street, Liscard at the time of his death in 1898

I know of Egerton St in New Brighton but can't find a road called The Avenue.

Can anyone help at all ?

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Lisa

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#475489 - 20th Feb 2011 2:15pm Re: The Avenue, Egerton Street [Re: LisaW]
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Maybe not of direct help, but in Gore's Directory 0f 1900, there is a Mrs Elizabeth Trevena resident at No.1 The Avenue, New Brighton. The Avenue is/was off Egerton Street, New Brighton.

Looking at GoogleMap, chunks of ground to the south of Egerton Street look as if "The Avenue" could have been there prior to the redevelopement of the Tower Fairground site. Also some more modern looking houses have been built, possibly on where The Avenue was ?? Sorry, not a great help.

Maybe someone local can chime in on this ?

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#475492 - 20th Feb 2011 2:31pm Re: The Avenue, Egerton Street [Re: LisaW]
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Is it possible that it was the name of the house?
Pinzgauer are there any other numbers in Gores confirming it was an actual avenue with other houses in it?


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#475493 - 20th Feb 2011 2:31pm Re: The Avenue, Egerton Street [Re: ]
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It was a small cul de sac between Grosvenor road and the Tower grounds. Currently standing there is a block of sheltered homes.

Numbers one to eleven (sandstone built) on the left and two to twelve (brick built) on the right. Think the odd numbers were originally fishermens cottages. From Seymour street, you could look over the wall onto the Avenue and if you were brave could drop down it and shortcut to Egerton street. There was an old chapel on the corner which in later years became a furniture storage place. Jones chippy in Egerton street was right opposite the Avenue.

You are slightly out there Derek with your google map. That was roughly where Victoria cottages were.



Edited by Helles (20th Feb 2011 2:32pm)

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#475495 - 20th Feb 2011 2:34pm Re: The Avenue, Egerton Street [Re: LisaW]
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There's an Egerton Street or Road in Liscard. It's the first road on the left after Manor Road Health Centre. It may be that one think
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#475498 - 20th Feb 2011 2:40pm Re: The Avenue, Egerton Street [Re: ]
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Here's The Avenue on the 19112 O.S. map. It's not that easy to see, but it's the first turning off Egerton St., parallel to Grosvenor Rd.
Use Ctrl +/- to enlarge/shrink the map.


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#475500 - 20th Feb 2011 2:48pm Re: The Avenue, Egerton Street [Re: LisaW]
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Going around in circles here. Trust me, I lived there for twenty odd years.

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#475504 - 20th Feb 2011 2:52pm Re: The Avenue, Egerton Street [Re: LisaW]
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Chris to the rescue !!! Good man !

LisaW. Gores Directory have "Egerton St"., then inserted is "The Avenue" then the numbers of the individual houses. Putting everything together, No.1 wasn't called "The Avenue". It was however located in "The Avenue".

Chris - can you copy, paste, dooferise the page from Gores. I was looking a the copy of your original one ! Pure plagiarism of course.

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#475513 - 20th Feb 2011 3:21pm Re: The Avenue, Egerton Street [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Pinzgauer
Maybe not of direct help, but in Gore's Directory 0f 1900, there is a Mrs Elizabeth Trevena resident at No.1 The Avenue, New Brighton. The Avenue is/was off Egerton Street, New Brighton.

Looking at GoogleMap, chunks of ground to the south of Egerton Street look as if "The Avenue" could have been there prior to the redevelopement of the Tower Fairground site. Also some more modern looking houses have been built, possibly on where The Avenue was ?? Sorry, not a great help.

Maybe someone local can chime in on this ?


Thanks for the info. Elizabeth was Thomas' Wife smile

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#475514 - 20th Feb 2011 3:22pm Re: The Avenue, Egerton Street [Re: Helles]
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Originally Posted By: Helles
It was a small cul de sac between Grosvenor road and the Tower grounds. Currently standing there is a block of sheltered homes.

Numbers one to eleven (sandstone built) on the left and two to twelve (brick built) on the right. Think the odd numbers were originally fishermens cottages. From Seymour street, you could look over the wall onto the Avenue and if you were brave could drop down it and shortcut to Egerton street. There was an old chapel on the corner which in later years became a furniture storage place. Jones chippy in Egerton street was right opposite the Avenue.

You are slightly out there Derek with your google map. That was roughly where Victoria cottages were.



Thanks smile

I don't suppose you have any pictures of houses at all?

The Trevena's lived in Seymour Place West in the 1891 census so they didn't move far

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#475518 - 20th Feb 2011 3:28pm Re: The Avenue, Egerton Street [Re: LisaW]
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Fraid not. It was pedestrianised in modern parlance. No cars allowed where the houses were. Used to be pig styes at the back of the odd numbers. Sadly I can remember them! frown

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#475531 - 20th Feb 2011 3:42pm Re: The Avenue, Egerton Street [Re: LisaW]
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Awful grammar in my last post. I half expected someone to post a picture of a random house smile

I meant to say do you have any photos of the old houses that stood in The Avenue?

Despite all the directions re where The Avenue was, i had to CRTL + to the maximum and still had to squint to find it idiot

Thanks again to you all for the replies

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#475543 - 20th Feb 2011 4:06pm Re: The Avenue, Egerton Street [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Pinzgauer


Chris - can you copy, paste, dooferise the page from Gores. I was looking a the copy of your original one ! Pure plagiarism of course.


Anything to oblige. The directory also lists the chapel & Victoria Cottages which Helles referred to, but neither is actually named on the map.
Also attached, a larger scale map (or rather, same scale but smaller area).


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#475547 - 20th Feb 2011 4:13pm Re: The Avenue, Egerton Street [Re: LisaW]
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I remember two young girls who lived in The Avenue, around the sixties. Rhoda Prosser was one and Dorothy Staples the other.I can't remember much more than that.

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#475548 - 20th Feb 2011 4:15pm Re: The Avenue, Egerton Street [Re: LisaW]
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...if you hold down the Ctrl and F5 key together it usually reloads the page and sharpens up any images. Should make the maps a little easier to see!

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