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Mike T just because it's 16 years old it doesn't mean it's a shed. Some people aren't mugs that go out getting finace
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Unfortunatly, as already mentioned advisorys on an MOT are just that. "Slight" corrosion can be just that for 10 years before it is bad enough to fail an MOT Also, checking the advisory list after you have bought the car is a bit like locking the gate once the horse has bolted - this should have been checked prior to buying the car. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, and I sympathise with your situation. Fortunatly the headgasket should be covered by the warrenty, as for the advisorys, they are just that, they are not MOT failure issues - yet, I think if you went over many newer cars closely enough a tester could find "advisorys" on much newer cars also....
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If there was an advisory attached to the MOT certificate we would have checked to see what was on it yes unfortunately it werent noticed straight away i am only 18 an this was a first car and it all seems to be going wrong. I will ring up trading standards thanks as u said i have nothin to loose.
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If you are going to buy a second hand car it is always better to find someone who knows at least a little bit about them to advise you. Look on the website "Honest John", he is the Daily Telegraph motoring fellah and there is lots of good gen on there especially with advice to yourself on buyers rights and also run downs on prices for cars, would advise anyone to look at this site as it is very informative when it comes to cars.
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Yeah my boyfriend was with me and his friend told him to look at all the things that are prone to go wrong with ka's at the time they was fine. I will go on that website thanks
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Does the dealer not have to tell me about the advisories or produce me with the advisory sheet off the MOT when i bought the car ?
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Does the dealer not have to tell me about the advisories or produce me with the advisory sheet off the MOT when i bought the car ? Unfortunatly not.
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As a dealer this bloke is covered by Trading Standards, if it was a private sale then nothing could be done. As a dealer he has certain responsibilities and it will depend on the willingness of the agrieved buyer to carry forward a case, just my opinion.
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I think the best thing for me to do is wait and see what the garage say about the head gasket an then get in touch with trading standards
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Your call to trading standards is confidential. So you have nothing to worry about. They are really helpful. As i mentioned my work mate. If not for the Trading Standards he would have had to pay £1,000 for a second hand engine and hassel. When you ring them. Explain the situation you dont even have to name the garage. You will be advised to download and print out "YOUR RIGHTS" which if you feel strong enough can present to the garage. Or you can post them. In this current climate "NO MONEY" Garages and alike can not afford "ANY" bad publicity. Just Ring Trading Standards. And go prepared knowing your rights. . . . And having them in your hand allows you to be confident. Good Luck
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Sarah, Contact 'Consumer Direct' on 08454 04 05 06 (or ring 0151 691 8020 which will divert you to that number). Consumer Direct handle all initial calls for Trading Standards departments in the UK. You will be speaking to a trained advisor who will tell you what your rights are. The matter is also likely to be referred through to your local Trading Standards Department to look into. If you wish, you can submit your complaint online at www.consumerdirect.gov.uk instead of calling them. As far as the comments posted stating that the garage doesn't have to tell you about the advisories, they are wrong. By not making you aware of this it is what's known as a 'misleading ommission'. In basic terms it asks the question... "would the average consumer have bought the car had they known about the advisories?" or "would the average consumer have paid the same amount of money for the car had they known about the advisories?" If you haven't done so already, contact Consumer Direct and you'll be up to speed with your statutory rights before you can say "old banger!".
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Thanks going to submit by complaint now that has been a big help
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I have just sent my complaint will i receive an email off them or will they ring to get in touch?
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As far as the comments posted stating that the garage doesn't have to tell you about the advisories, they are wrong. By not making you aware of this it is what's known as a 'misleading ommission'. In basic terms it asks the question... "would the average consumer have bought the car had they known about the advisories?" or "would the average consumer have paid the same amount of money for the car had they known about the advisories?" I here what you are saying, and have heard that opinion before. Do you really expect a secondhand dealer to itemise every scratch and signs of wear - I never heard a secondhand furniture dealer do this. Unfortunately it was brought in under the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008, another trashy piece of miscreated legislation. The implications are huge and almost make it impossible to sell secondhand goods which are not perfect. All cars would be sold as spares or repairs by dealers if this legislation was enforced.
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