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this is gonna happen guys and with YOUR support have MAXIMUM IMPACT.....your help is needed , please spread the word and add yourselves if you have facebook
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this is gonna happen guys and with YOUR support have MAXIMUM IMPACT.....your help is needed , please spread the word and add yourselves if you have facebook If after this farce the fuel prices go down by even a penny due to your actions, i'll drink a gallon of petrol. What a waste - As said, Shell etc make less than 8% off fuel sold, the other 92% goes to the government - Why not have a protest at 10 Downing Street? Oh yeah, you cant afford to get there. Seriously, you may aswell have a fuel protest at the Job Center, atleast that way your SLIGHTLY in the right direction.
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this is gonna happen guys and with YOUR support have MAXIMUM IMPACT.....your help is needed , please spread the word and add yourselves if you have facebook If after this farce the fuel prices go down by even a penny due to your actions, i'll drink a gallon of petrol. What a waste - As said, Shell etc make less than 8% off fuel sold, the other 92% goes to the government - Why not have a protest at 10 Downing Street? Oh yeah, you cant afford to get there. Seriously, you may aswell have a fuel protest at the Job Center, atleast that way your SLIGHTLY in the right direction. That man has a point! Maybe some local or even regional government offices would be more appropriate and get more media attention. If the intention is to cut off the fuel supply, im afraid to say, there is more than one refinery, and you won't be able to do it without getting arrested nowadays under anti-terrorism legislation. You can protest peacefully, but you can't blockade anymore, and without a mass-blockade (on all refineries around the country), you won't get any media attention, apart from maybe a few lines on page 17 in the Ellesmere Port Pioneer.
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History says otherwise.....
Previous protest did get the price down.
Previous non-blockade protest got tons of mainstream media coverage.
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn https://ddue.uk
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The area has number of Labour MP's including one who was part of the Treasury team and is now shadow part of the Treasury team who upped fuel prices at every opportunity, you would do better to protest outside the party buildings when they have a surgery,you would get more tv and msm coverage than driving around in convoy,wasting your own fuel,the area also has a Conservative MP who I believe may be part of the regime who is in power,as I only ever see Libs??es on tv, I can only presume they have more votes.
Personally I believe your pi??ing in the wind it's the same direction as they pi??ed our taxes,they have every angle covered including the law.
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mp`s have been contacted as of yet NO REPLY , letters have been delivered to downing st etc , no reply , expect the unexpected  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wl3wOmqcQI
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Ahem. Excuse me. I used to do something, a lot more than try to organise a shitty, pointless, protest at a single refinery via Facebook. And after a couple of years with Transaction, followed by the grim reality of the economic crisis, I don't really care about fuel prices anymore, ill just pay them whatever they are. And if I was skint, id just put me right foot forwards, me left foot would follow, and hey presto, id be walking!
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Ahem. Excuse me. I used to do something, a lot more than try to organise a shitty, pointless, protest at a single refinery via Facebook. And after a couple of years with Transaction, followed by the grim reality of the economic crisis, I don't really care about fuel prices anymore, ill just pay them whatever they are. And if I was skint, id just put me right foot forwards, me left foot would follow, and hey presto, id be walking! good for you . im pleased you can afford it, pointless protest ???mmmm ok we will see
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Id like to know why diesle costs more than petrol when it used to be the other way round
no1s gonna keep me from u
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be nice to see them both the same ...i agree fill ya tank up
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Ahem. Excuse me. I used to do something, a lot more than try to organise a shitty, pointless, protest at a single refinery via Facebook. And after a couple of years with Transaction, followed by the grim reality of the economic crisis, I don't really care about fuel prices anymore, ill just pay them whatever they are. And if I was skint, id just put me right foot forwards, me left foot would follow, and hey presto, id be walking! good for you . im pleased you can afford it, pointless protest ???mmmm ok we will see When we see a few pence knocked off the price of fuel as a direct result of this protest, ill believe it was anything other than pointless. As I said previously, I don't think you understand, the country is not in a position to cut taxation anymore, if anything, we need to be increasing taxation to get our finances straight again. The last thing on the governments mind, is cutting the duty on fuel, due to a couple of simpletons, with too much time on their hands, parking up outside a privately owned oil refinery in the back and beyond of Cheshire. As said by others, why don't you target your protest at the people with the power to do something about it? Iirc, the end-consumer does not actually pay a penny in fuel duty, it is the refinery that does. The reason for this is of course to (legally) sustain the VAT loophole on fuel paid at the pump. So technically, we are not paying fuel duty beyond VAT anyway!
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also this country is held to ransom by the greedy fat cats who have plenty but want more....you work all the hours god sends and work like a bstard to get taxed to death, not just in ya wage packet but vat, charges, council tax, the list goes on and on....
its about time the ppl in this country stopped sitting on their backsides, get the shite out of their eyes and carry out protests....and not lame ones neither....the economy has gone now so what is stopping us....
sorry for the rant its the rebel in me lol So what you are arguing, is the government should remove/lower all the taxes, the countries revenue from tax will be lower than it is today etc... Where do we then, get the money to pay for the public services, and pay the interest (yes, the interest) and for further borrowing on the already huge national debt? I was a member of Transaction, long before you lot decided to "get off your backsides" and it achieved pretty much nothing - you think a few hundred people around a refinery is going to achieve much, it isnt, Transaction practically bought the country to a halt by blockading every refinery, and forced a duty increase to be postponed - thats as good as it gets, and a disorganised, single protest at a single refinery, won't do much, especially if you are not working in union with other action groups. I attended the 2008 protests at Stanlow - well I say attended, they were not part of Transaction, and again, pointless, they too were just disorganised, and did not run in sync with any other protests, and achieved zilch! Once I saw the crappy turnout, and the threat from the plod of arrest under anti-terrorism legislation, I left lol. Im afraid, now more than ever, you will achieve nothing. And if the government bring in a fuel price stabiliser, don't for one minute think it is anything to do with an isolated protest by a few cars and vans down at Stanlow - the tories were talking about it 2 maybe even 3 years ago!! in response to ypur post mattlfc.... public services yes i agree we should be paying for...what i dont agree with is when our council and others including the government pump money in banks abroad and then lose out..why should joe bloggs have to pay out twice... also dont agree with nhs paying for ppl who come here to have operations...the nhs was designed as care for all in the uk..not for other countries to take it for granted and abuse it...this takes resources away from ppl who work and live here and have payed into the tax system... it is not the fault of the ordinary working man or woman for the state of the economy...it is the greedy politicians and leacherous bankers who have made the mistakes and yet ordinary joe bloggs cops the shit for it... remember it our money....yes the publics...and the public have the right to demonstrate on where there money is going.... whether it is a protest in stanlow..or a protest in downing street..it doesnt matter...what does matter is that the public is making a stand...the mouse is beginning to find its voice...
'Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.' Dr Seuss.
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^^^^^ what a lovely statement
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