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I can't believe that girls under the age of consent get pregnant with a view of getting what you have described above, older ones maybe, but 14 year old, no, thats got to be down to lack of education, background, etc.


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believe me it is true bert, it has nothing to do with lack of education as all schools teach sex education, they supply mentors to help them and offer advice on all tops of subjects...
there are campaigns..
there are visitors from the brook or other contraception advice bureaus offering advice...
talk to frank and other web campaigns

bert teenages have more help now than ever and yet this problem persists.....

watch now because the EMA has stopped..the rise in teenage pregnancies......


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So whats the answer, forced contraception at a certain age, forced abortion if out of wedlock or below a certain age. Someone somewhere is going to have to get pretty barbaric.


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gosh no that all goes against my principles.....

maybe a good look at the government and all political parties to come to some consensus regarding the benefits system as a whole...because it is becoming a farce

the benefits system was designed to help the vulnerable in our society...not to provide tattoos or carlsberg...or benefits to go abroad..

it needs a major overhaul



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Originally Posted by zippy
what this got to do with if the granddad as got a job or not, so if he had a job she wouldn't be pregnant, wow I can see it now 100s of men 'It ok love we don't need a comdom I"ve got a job' LOL


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So stopping benefits may stop below the age of consent pregnancies, I'll have a think about that while i watch the football.

Behave yourself while I'm away. wink


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wench, some of the 14 year old girls today look older than 16 to be honest...and the wicker dippers will only scream "she told me she was 16"...

i think it needs to be tackled holistically from the parental responsibilty to the wicker dippers


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it has been removed for some reason zippy, wench thought maybe the little sods should be charged with rape if they have sex with a minor


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discipline has gone from the homes and the school's as kids go you can't touch me i'll get you done and that is down to the goverment saying that you can't hit your kids but getting hit by your parents or getting the cane never did me any harm or any of my freinds that i went to school with as i had left long before they changed the law to no hitting so if anyone is responsible it's the goverment.

Being in work or claiming benefits has got nothing to do with it it's about 14 year old girls having sex when they are far to young to be doing that and should still be playing with dolls or whatever 14 year old girls used to do,when was that age i was out playing football with my mates and girls were the last thing that we thought about.
Nobody has the respect that they used to have for others these days and we are all guilty of that as bet you all say get out of the way in your head when someone is in the way when you drive or even if you are out shopping etc.


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Originally Posted by rocketqueen
it has been removed for some reason zippy, wench thought maybe the little sods should be charged with rape if they have sex with a minor

I removed it by accident - went to edit it and the pc had a hissy fit. They should be charged IMO, or at least make an example of a few to get the message out there.

I'm with endo - a clip round the ear never did me any harm either. No criminal record, not turned to drugs or alcohol and I'm not a violent person.

There's really no need for such a high level of unwanted/unplanned pregnancies - it's not like you have to buy condoms or any other form of contraception or be embarrassed about it like "in the old days". It's freely available and free. If you're not adult enough to use contraception or discuss it, then you're not old enough to be having sex!

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Go back to the 40s and 50s. Unmarried girl gets pregnant, removed from her family home and put in a home for unmarried mothers. Be it RC or CE, baby born, girl comes home without baby, baby put up for adoption. ITS SIMPLE {END OF STORY}


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Go back to the 40s and 50s. Unmarried girl gets pregnant, removed from her family home and put in a home for unmarried mothers. Be it RC or CE, baby born, girl comes home without baby, baby put up for adoption. ITS SIMPLE {END OF STORY}


Not even that far back, this happened all the way through the 60's as well.

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Originally Posted by zippy
what this got to do with if the granddad as got a job or not, so if he had a job she wouldn't be pregnant, wow I can see it now 100s of men 'It ok love we don't need a comdom I"ve got a job' LOL


I just feel that a happy child all the way up to its teens should feel that it is a stable enviroment with no worries about were its next meal tocken it coming from. Yes I agree all you need is love to make a happy family, but that dont always put steak on your plate.


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