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BIRDS HOUSE #438920
23rd Oct 2010 2:48pm
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Birds House, as stated in previously in Wiki History, is the oldest house on the Wirral. An old farmers house made from probably local sandstone and erected in 1621 according to the date stone.
This house has now been vacated by its elderly owner and was boarded up on Thursday.
Im not sure of its future, maybe restoration or Sale.
It has been extended quite a bit in its 400 year life and butresses erected on the outside walls to strengthen them.
Any more info on this property. Have always been interested by this house, its build, History etc.


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Re: BIRDS HOUSE [Re: hoseman] #438930
23rd Oct 2010 3:40pm
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Well that's just great, peel holdings will get this, I can see it now, it's only the other day I mentioned about this house being next! Fuming mad
Wish I could buy it, it needs someone to buy and restore it back to it's former glory.
When this house was made there would of been fields all around with cows ect, there was a lake down where the docks have been filled in called Wallasey Poole (I think), my, it's Wierd just how much the area has changed since this house was built.

Image the people who have worked in that house over the years, wonder what they did for a living, what life was like back then and was it an expensive house?

I reckon thesandstone may have came from the breck quarry?
There were two old properties in Wallasey village next to the black horse but they were ripped down and they were listed!!!
frown

Re: BIRDS HOUSE [Re: ] #438965
23rd Oct 2010 6:43pm
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Grrr dispicale!
Went past this on way home from work this evening, all boarded up and waiting for the local vandals to strike.
I can see the headlines now....

"oldest house in Wirral in arson probe"

frown

Re: BIRDS HOUSE [Re: _Ste_] #438971
23rd Oct 2010 7:22pm
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Oh here we go again......dry rot, arson, dangerous structure, etc etc and the oldest house goes to the development God. We need to be proactive here and make sure it doesn't end up like the Pool Inn!I remember when younger seeing a workman with a sledgehammer deliver the coupe de grace to the Liscard town boundary stone in Church Street. I tried to explain that this stone was illustrated in the Rise and Progress of Wallasey but was told to f... o..

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Re: BIRDS HOUSE [Re: tigertiger1953] #438973
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You gonna start a petition, tiger?


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Re: BIRDS HOUSE [Re: RUDEBOX] #438997
23rd Oct 2010 8:39pm
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Wirral borough council get involved,...there's a fire,.....the end.


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Re: BIRDS HOUSE [Re: Capt_America] #439041
24th Oct 2010 8:17am
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Someone should, or maybe better start a petition to get rid of WBC. One day all we will have is blocks of flats. Bird's house was nearly burned down on the 12th March 1941 when the roof was hit by German incendaries. A platoon of soldiers climbed up and put them out and saved it. They then refused the owner's offer of tea and sandwiches and went back to their barracks Darley Dene which was hit by the landmine minutes later killing most of them.

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Re: BIRDS HOUSE [Re: tigertiger1953] #439043
24th Oct 2010 9:08am
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Have you informed English Heritage of Birds House and your worry's using an edited version what might happen to it.

English Heritage
3rd floor Canada House
3 Chepstow Street
Manchester M1 5FW
Telephone:0161 242 1400

Email:northwest@english-heritage.org.uk

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Re: BIRDS HOUSE [Re: davew3] #439059
24th Oct 2010 11:36am
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I always thought this WAS a listed property!
Originally a farm dwelling as the area was mainly open fields.
Dont know about WBC saving it....they are just as bad as the developers.
As mentioned, it will be deemed "dangerous" and torched eventually!!!
You read it here first....AGAIN!!!!


IF IT HAS A HOSE THEN IM YOUR MAN

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Re: BIRDS HOUSE [Re: hoseman] #439064
24th Oct 2010 1:04pm
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Originally Posted by hoseman
I always thought this WAS a listed property!
Originally a farm dwelling as the area was mainly open fields.
Dont know about WBC saving it....they are just as bad as the developers.
As mentioned, it will be deemed "dangerous" and torched eventually!!!
You read it here first....AGAIN!!!!


Your right hoseman, this is grade two listed...
4.48 At the western end of Limekiln Lane, immediately to the north
of the site, stands ‘The Old House’ [3091/1]. Otherwise
known as ‘Bird’s House’, this small 17th century stone-built
house on the corner of Limekiln Lane and Poulton Bridge Road

is probably the oldest extant structure in the vicinity of the
site, and is Grade II listed.

Re: BIRDS HOUSE [Re: _Ste_] #439065
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What is worrying is that the pool in was also mentioned in this very report!

Quote

4.1 This assessment has been prepared by Waterman CPM Limited
(WCPM) on behalf of Peel Holdings Plc to inform and support
the Baseline Study for Wirral Waters. The location of the main
areas of interest, as well as the wider study area, is shown on
Plan 1(2938/27).


Re: BIRDS HOUSE [Re: _Ste_] #439081
24th Oct 2010 4:24pm
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Grade II listing means it cannot (legally) be demolished without getting listed building consent, the Pool was not listed, and so could be demolished without any permissions. (Doesn't stop the 'mysterious' fire though.)

Listing details for Birds' House from English Herritage

Building Details:

Building Name: THE OLD HOUSE
Parish: WALLASEY
District: WIRRAL
County: MERSEYSIDE
Postcode: CH44 5SP
LBS Number: 444453
Grade: II
Date Listed: 20/05/1952
NGR: SJ3019091020

Listing Text:

SJ 39 SW WALLASEY LIMEKILN LANE
(west side)

House. Lintel inscribed: "W M/1627" (William and Mary
Bird). Stone with slate roof. 2 storeys with attic, 3
bays. Coped gables with kneelers. Single-chamfered-
mullioned windows of 3 and 5-lights with label moulds to
ground floor, 3:2 + 2:1-light windows to 1st floor. 2
gabled 2-light dormers. Entrance has large inscribed
lintel with label mould. Returns and rear similar. Rear
has brick, but that to right partly of stone. Interior not
inspected but described in E. Mercer, English Vernacular
Houses, pp 142.

Listing NGR: SJ3019091020

Re: BIRDS HOUSE [Re: hoseman] #439135
24th Oct 2010 9:57pm
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Found a few photos of Bird's House in the late 50s.

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Interior_1.jpg (896 downloads)
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Re: BIRDS HOUSE [Re: marty99fred] #439139
24th Oct 2010 10:12pm
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This house was the Nan of old friends who we lost contact with. About 10 years ago, actually! We did make some sort of contact with the family about 4years ago and 'Nan' was staying there, whether she was still officially the occupant of Bird House, i dunno.


Mia Mabel

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Re: BIRDS HOUSE [Re: RUDEBOX] #439141
24th Oct 2010 10:16pm
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Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
This house was the Nan of old friends who we lost contact with. About 10 years ago, actually! We did make some sort of contact with the family about 4years ago and 'Nan' was staying there, whether she was still officially the occupant of Bird House, i dunno.
*there, as in the family home( her daughter and family) , not the Old House.


Mia Mabel

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh! Jer-e-my Cor-byn

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