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#438551 - 21st Oct 2010 5:00pm Wallasey News
PaulWirral
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Saturday, 5th July, 1862

Melancholy Occurrence At Wallasey

A Man And His Wife Drowned.

On Tuesday night last, a melancholy occurrence took place at Wallasey, which has produced a very painful feeling throughout that parish. A man named Thomas Howard, who was employed as a journeyman painter by Mr. Grinnell, of New Brighton, was drinking at a late hour in a beerhouse kept by a person named Copeland, at Little Brighton. At eleven o'clock, his wife Hannah Howard, who was accompanied by his brother, a lad about fourteen years of age, called for him at the beerhouse, and, it is said, remonstrated with him for getting tipsy and stopping away from his own house and family. The husband became angry and excited, and gave his wife a slap with his open hand on the face. Soon afterwards, however, they left the beerhouse, apparently on friendly terms, and, accompanied by the boy, proceeded along the high road in the direction of their residence, in Green Lane, Wallasey Village. Midway between Little Brighton and Wallasey Village there is a pit known by the name of the "Captain's Pit", from the circumstance of a captain having been drowned in it some years ago. This pit, which in some parts is of considerable depth, is partially open to the high road, and is used for horses and cattle to drink from. On reaching this spot, the intoxicated husband suddenly stopped, pulled off his coat, and rushed into the pit. The wife, alarmed for her husband's safety, followed into the water and seized him round the waist, at the same making an effort to get him out. The boy stood at the edge of the pit, and could render no assistance. The unfortunate woman screamed, and they both were seen by the lad to fall. Their feet had evidently stuck fast in the mud, which, it is said, is unusually deep in this particular pit, and, not being able to raise themselves, both husband and wife were drowned. The youth immediately gave an alarm, and in a few minutes after the sad occurrence, a man named John Booth, who also had been drinking at Copeland's beerhouse at Little Brighton, came up, but he could not muster sufficient resolution to venture into the pit to rescue the unfortunate couple. Other persons were soon on the spot, and drags having been obtained, the bodies were taken out of the water. After being immersed about half an hour, it is scarcely necessary to say that life in each was quite extinct. The bodies were removed by the police to the residence of the deceased. One child is left to mourn the fate of its parents, and it is stated that the mother was pregnant. It is supposed that Howard rushed into the pit for the purpose of frightening his wife, and not with intention of committing suicide.

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#438552 - 21st Oct 2010 5:03pm Re: Wallasey News [Re: ]
PaulWirral
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Friday, 10th February, 1894

Seacombe - The Melancholy Deaths

Mr.Henry Churton, county coroner, on the bodies of Hannah Adams and her six days old child. The deceased woman was the wife of Joseph Adams, a dock labourer, residing in Shakespeare Road, Seacombe, and since the Tuesday after her confinement, which took place a week on Sunday, she had not been, according to the evidence of her husband, in a perfect state of mind. The husband woke up about half-past eleven on Friday night and missed his wife and child from bed. He obtained the assistance of sound neighbours and the police, and a dilligent search was made for the missing ones. The party continued their investigations all through the night, and at half-past seven on Saturday morning the husband saw his wife's body in a pit at the bottom of Geneva Road, Seacombe. He, with the aid of Constable Rowlands, recovered the body, and a couple of hours later Constable Sudlow, who was dragging in the same pit, also found the body of the infant. The jury, after a brief consultation, found that the mother destroyed the child's life by throwing it into the pit, and committed suicide herself while of temporarily unsound mind.

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#438553 - 21st Oct 2010 5:04pm Re: Wallasey News [Re: ]
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Saturday, 11th May, 1822

Punishment For Plundering Of Wrecks

Thomas Moore, of Moreton, labourer, was convicted at the Chester Assizes of stealing ropes from the wreck of the Mary and Betty, stranded on the Wallasey shore in October, 1820. and sentenced to death. It is hoped, that all those persons who have hitherto looked upon wrecking as a lawful trade, will learn from the sentence, that, by the law of the land, as well as the laws of humanity. It is considered a most atrucious crime. By the 26th of Geo.II. plundering a vessel in distress (whether wreck or no wreck) is felony without benefit of Clergy.

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#438554 - 21st Oct 2010 5:18pm Re: Wallasey News [Re: ]
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Thanks Paul, these are brilliant, strange the way today's News doesn't tell us much.
These old newspapers give us an insight as to what life was like in the 1800's smile
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#438558 - 21st Oct 2010 5:33pm Re: Wallasey News [Re: _Ste_]
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Awesome

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#438559 - 21st Oct 2010 5:47pm Re: Wallasey News [Re: Wheels]
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thanks paul what a resd thumbsup
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#438561 - 21st Oct 2010 5:57pm Re: Wallasey News [Re: _Ste_]
PaulWirral
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Originally Posted By: _Ste_
Thanks Paul, these are brilliant, strange the way today's News doesn't tell us much.
These old newspapers give us an insight as to what life was like in the 1800's smile


...though sometimes the News of the past kind of resembles the News of today : Some examples -

Saturday, 2nd August, 1862

Liscard Petty Sessions

(Before Thomas Bouch and Charles Holland Esqrs.)

Drunk And Disorderly -- A youth apparently not more than about fifteen years of age called Robert Dean, son of Robert Dean of Wallasey, was charged with being drunk and disorderly on Saturday night the 19th of July, at Seacombe. The case was proved, and he was fined 5s. with an intimation that if brought up again he would be sent to gaol and whipped.

Violent Assault At Egremont -- A married woman named Ruth Pagh was brought up on warrant, charging her with having on the 18th of June, committed a violent assault upon her sister-in-law, at Egremont. From the statement of the complainant, and the evidence of Mr. Barnett, who witnessed the assault, it appeared that defendant had inflicted a serious blow upon complainant while she was in a delicate state of health. The case having been proved, the defendant was prdered to pay 7s. 6d. costs.

Ill Using His Wife -- John Dickson, a fisherman living at Liscard, appeared to answer a summons for ill-using his wife. The wife said she did not wish to press the charge, and the presiding magistrate, Charles Holland, Esq. said he was aware she did not as the summons had been taken out on his instigation. It appeared the defendant was a kind husband when sober, but that latterly he had given way very much to drink, and when in that state he abused his wife. He had a strong lesson read to him, and was told that if he was brought up again, he would be sent to Chester Castle for six months.

Keeping Open A Public House At Unlawful Hours -- Elizabeth Robinson Porter appeared to answer a summons for having on Sunday, the 6th of July, had her house, the Stanley Arms Hotel, at Seacombe, open at five minutes to one o'clock on Sunday morning the 6th inst., contrary to law. The Police deposed that on the day in question they went into the house and found eight men therein, five of whom had glasses before them, and one of whom drank from his glass in the presence of the Police. The men present were not travellers, but residents in the immediate neighbourhood. Mr. Michael Charlton, father of defendant, stepped forward, and explained that the men had entered the house some time before twelive o'clock on Saturday night, and had been repeatedly requested to leave, but could not be got out. He positively swore that no drink had been supplied to any of them after twelve o'clock. The previous character of the house being unblemished, the magistrates accepted the explanation, and dismissed the case on payment of costs.

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#438563 - 21st Oct 2010 6:38pm Re: Wallasey News [Re: ]
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Its intereresting how the use of written language has changed.
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#438571 - 21st Oct 2010 7:04pm Re: Wallasey News [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: PaulWirral

Drunk And Disorderly -- A youth apparently not more than about fifteen years of age called Robert Dean, son of Robert Dean of Wallasey, was charged with being drunk and disorderly on Saturday night the 19th of July, at Seacombe. The case was proved, and he was fined 5s. with an intimation that if brought up again he would be sent to gaol and whipped.



fantastic busted bring this kind of punishment back and we'd have less scrotes on the streets !
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#438782 - 22nd Oct 2010 5:49pm Re: Wallasey News [Re: RUDEBOX]
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I find it interesting how they include so much info!

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#439676 - 28th Oct 2010 12:07pm Re: Wallasey News [Re: Bezzymate]
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Some ways Wallasey hasn't changed all that much.

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#439681 - 28th Oct 2010 1:13pm Re: Wallasey News [Re: Bezzymate]
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Sentenced to death for stealing ropes is a bit harsh one would think? frown
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#439688 - 28th Oct 2010 1:48pm Re: Wallasey News [Re: ]
nightwalker Offline

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The couple who died in captain's pit are distant relatives and I wondered why they'd both died on the same day. Now I know!! Cheers Paul

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#439703 - 28th Oct 2010 3:12pm Re: Wallasey News [Re: _Ste_]
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Originally Posted By: _Ste_
Sentenced to death for stealing ropes is a bit harsh one would think? frown
Wasn't for stealing ropes, it was for plundering a wreck - or more accurately "plundering a vessel in distress (whether wreck or no wreck)".
Am I anal, or what? LOL

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#512965 - 4th May 2011 12:49am Re: Wallasey News [Re: ]
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The 14 year old brother would be my great granddad Henry Howard born 6/5/1848. This is a great but sad story to add to my family tree. I would be grateful if anyone can find other stories like this.

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