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Junction of Borough Road and Prenton Road West/East - 3 manholes

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On Borough Road on pavement outside Tranmere Rovers - 2 manholes (probably Gas) (there were also 4 small square gas covers and a gas vent box)

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On Borough Road at bottom of Mallory Road - 1 manhole

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On Borough Road at bottom of Everest Road - 3 manholes and a fat stench pipe! (last post - sorry pictures aren't better, it was dark and I was getting targeted by road traffic)

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Thanks, guys. So, none of those match the ones used on Everest Rd. & Viccy Park. For comparison, here's a pic of those. I wonder now whether the plan was changed & it wasn't started from Temple Rd. I still can't see the sense of starting there & then going up stream; any thoughts on that?

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Interesting that the two vent/stench pipes are at Temple road and Everest road though, isn't it?

Both the pipes are fatter than normal and don't have the normal decorative cowling.


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Good work dd. The one with the double yellow line on it looks as if it could have a dangling carrot below it !!!

The larger diameter stench pipes are interesting too.

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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Junction of Borough Road and Prenton Road West/East - 3 manholes


Fascinating, Captain! Particularly the last one of these three covers, as it shows just how old some of this street furniture is. 'W & M SCOTT. TRANMERE' refers to William & Maxwell Scott's Tranmere Foundry, which was close to the old Tranmere Ferry. Maxwell Scott died in September 1874, and the company of W & M Scott went out of business in 1887, when the foundry was sold at auction...

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Originally Posted by Pinzgauer
Good work dd. The one with the double yellow line on it looks as if it could have a dangling carrot below it !!!


Yes, that is a lot bigger than a standard manhole, being in the middle of traffic lights and a rail beside it makes it awkward to have a look through the holes wink


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I did a bit more delving and spent some time looking for some old plans. Ended up doing a bit better than I'd expected and found a fully coloured set of about twenty linen contract/design drawings from 1934. smile

I made a few notes on manhole locations, depths, pipe sizes etc which I'll post up in a while.

(Is there any way to post information in a 'table' format, rather than just text?).

Also took a couple of camera-phone shots of parts of the drawings which I'll try to put up.

It very much looks like the head of the overflow sewer is located not at Temple Road, but even further north at the Borough Road / Parkend Road junction.

The reason for this apparent "doubling-back" to Everest Rd along Borough Road would have been to provide relief to the existing Borough Road sewer between Parkend Road and Everest Rd. This existing sewer took many side connections from the west, including Prenton Road West, and the parallel (but deeper) new overflow pipe allowed excess run-off from these catchments to be carried away without overloading the existing Borough Road sewer.

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Ok, I couldn't find out how to put information in 'table' format within the text of a forum post, so I'll just put it in normally.

The first thing to bear in mind is that the information I'm sharing was taken from design drawings and not necessarily "as constructed" record drawings, so possibly some details may have changed. Indeed, there are handwritten notes on several drawings commenting on specific technical details (size, depth, location, internal manhole configuration etc). Nevertheless, I'm confident what I've copied out is a fairly accurate record, although I've made some comments where I had some doubts.

Having noted that the drawings are from February 1934, are not necessarily "as constructed", and that there are some annotations indicating work-in-progress, there are a couple of other things probably worth mentioning.

The drawings show 25 manholes in total.

Between Manhole (MH) 19 and 18 (Everest Rd - Victoria Park), it would appear that Everest Rd stopped as a dead-end at the location of No.s 55/48, with a 'poultry farm' shown to the east. The road was of course later extended (albeit with a slight kink).

St. Paul's Road - eastern end. There was a new overflow added here in the mid 1990s to take flow down to The Dell and on up to Beaconsfield treatment works. The area around Russell Road / Mersey Road has probably changed significantly as a consequence. That said, the outfall was extended following the construction of the Shell Terminal further to the east of MH1, and is still operational now as far as I know.

Between MH17 and MH16 the construction changed from tunnel (used further west) to open-cut, due to the much-reduced depths involved.

From MH13 down towards the original outfall at MH1, the gradual increase in pipe size was due to intercepted connections from the nearby drainage systems.

So, on to the list. Since I can't work out how to show it as a table and didn't want to attach a file containing the information, it's shown as text. The format is MH reference No. first, starting at Borough Road - Parkend Road (MH25) and working down to the old outfall at St. Paul's Road (MH1). Then follows location information as I've interpreted it from the drawings, followed by manhole depth, pipe gradient, material and size.

I've attached an approximate plot of the line taken through Victoria Park, too.

Here it all is.

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MH 25 Borough Road opposite Parkend Rd. Storm Water Overflow MH. Depth 14.6ft. Head of outfall system. Outgoing pipe concrete 27” diameter.

MH24 Borough Road Southbound opp Parkbridge Rd. Depth 20.7ft. Incoming pipe gradient 1/140. Outgoing pipe concrete 27” diameter

MH23 Borough Rd Southbound approx. 20ft north of Temple Rd. Storm Water Overflow MH. Depth 27.7ft. Incoming pipe gradient 1/140. Outgoing pipe concrete 33” dia.

MH22 Borough Rd Southbound near junction with eastbound lane Prenton Road East. SWO MH. Depth 34.7ft. Incoming pipe gradient 1/160. Outgoing pipe concrete 42” dia.

MH 21 Borough Rd junction Everest Rd. SWO MH. Depth 40.6ft. Incoming grad 1/200. Outgoing pipe concrete 51” dia.

MH 20 Everest Rd outside No. 17. Depth 53.7ft. Incoming grad 1/220. Outgoing pipe conc. 51” dia.

MH19 Everest Rd outside No. 41 (just east of Ingleborough Rd junction). Depth 69.3ft. Incoming grad 1/220. Outgoing pipe conc. 51” dia.

MH18 Victoria park adjacent to Church Rd junction with roundabout. Inside park just north of pedestrian access. Depth 70.7ft. Inc. grad 1/220. Outgoing pipe conc. 51” dia.

MH17 Victoria park – see plan for approx. location. Was adjacent to old tennis courts. Depth 29.3ft. Inc. grad 1/220. Outgoing pipe conc. 51”dia.

MH16 Victoria park – see plan for approx. location. Just west of path, possibly. Was NW of old fountain, SW of lavatories on old plan. Ramped outlet. Depth 13.8ft. Inc grad 1/220. Outgoing pipe conc. 51”dia.

MH15 Victoria park – see plan for approx. location. Originally shown in wooded area ENE of fountain location. Ramped outlet. Depth 14.0ft. Inc grad 1/220. Outgoing pipe conc. 51” dia.

MH14 Victoria park – see plan for approx. location. Approx 120ft east of MH15. Ramped outlet. Depth 14.0ft. Inc grad 1/220. Outgoing pipe conc. 51” dia.

MH13 Albany Rd. Opp. No. 27. Ramped outlet. Depth 15.5ft. Inc grad 1/220. Outgoing pipe conc. 54” dia.

MH12 Albany Rd. – Well Lane junction (in centre). Depth 14.7ft. Inc grad 1/162. Outgoing pipe conc. 60” dia.

MH11 Well Lane. Originally shown as o/s No.s 34/23. Not sure if constructed?. Depth 14.7ft. Inc grad 1/220. Outgoing pipe conc. 60” dia.

MH10 Well Lane between 12/14 on that side. Depth 14.9ft. Inc grad 1/220. Outgoing pipe conc. 60” dia.

MH9 End of St. Paul’s Rd at Well Lane. Stepped outlet. Depth 15’. Inc grad 1/220. Outgoing pipe brick 66” dia.

MH8 St. Paul’s Rd opp Alison St (now gone – MH would be sort of o/s No. 15). Stepped outlet. Depth 15ft. Inc grad 1/220. Outgoing pipe brick 66” dia.

MH7 St. Paul’s Rd opp No. 33 / Meadows Lane. May be opposite Alison Avenue now. Stepped outlet. Depth 14ft. Inc grad 1/220. Outgoing pipe brick 66” dia.

MH6 St. Paul’s Rd. Shown opposite 47/49 at junction with Star St. (gone). Probably between No. 39/41 now. Stepped outlet. Depth 13.5ft. Inc grad 1/220. Outgoing pipe brick 72” dia.

MH5 St. Paul’s Rd. Shown opp. Earl St. (gone). Now probably opp. Thorsway. Stepped outlet. Depth 13.73ft. Inc grad 1/220. Outgoing pipe brick 75” dia.

MH4 St. Paul’s Rd – New Chester Road junction (in centre). Stepped outlet. Depth 15ft. Inc grad 1/280. Outgoing pipe brick 81” dia.

MH3 St. Paul’s Rd. opposite Russell Road. Stepped outlet. Depth 14.4ft. Inc grad 1/300. Outgoing pipe brick 81” dia.

MH2 St. Paul’s Rd. opposite Mersey Road. Would now probably be beneath verge adjacent to north-bound by-pass just before roundabout. Depth 15ft. Inc grad 1/300. Outgoing pipe steel 84” dia.

MH1 Approximately 175ft. east of MH2. Old coastline. Made ground above. Now near entrance to Shell terminal. Depth 11ft. Inc grad 1/300. Outgoing pipe steel 84” diameter. Tide-flap fitted.


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Next, some rather shaky mobile 'phone shots which nevertheless hopefully give an idea of the drawings.

I hope this is all of some interest.

Can manhole photographers please think twice before running out across the by-pass in search of that elusive "cover shot"? smile




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The deep one. MH18 at the west end of Victoria Park. Cross-section.
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First manhole at the head of the system - Parkend Road. Sorry about the quality.
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Typical ramp manhole in Victoria Park
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MH21 Everest Rd details.
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