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Clean hard drive before selling #425104
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My daughter is selling her notebook. Does anyone know how to clear everything off without any disks???

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Re: Clean hard drive before selling [Re: Softy_Southerner] #425108
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take the drive out and put a new one in, earesed data can be retrieved, so if you have used for banking your best replacing it.

Re: Clean hard drive before selling [Re: _Ste_] #425111
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hi may be interested in buying it how much she looking for without the hard drive

Re: Clean hard drive before selling [Re: lansyp] #425113
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Thanks Lansyp but she's down south and already has a buyer
thanks though

Re: Clean hard drive before selling [Re: Softy_Southerner] #425118
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Depends whether she has the original Windows installation disk (or Windows reinstall is on a separate hard disk segment). If that is the case then although not perfect she could do a full Windows re-install. That will involve a reformat of the C: drive (where any data is likely to be stored)and will then put back Windows in the original state. ALL other software etc will be deleted

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Re: Clean hard drive before selling [Re: Snodvan] #425132
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Hi Snodvan
I've done it to mine before but she's got a notebook with no disk drive so no disks to reinstall from - that's why I'm struggling, I don't know how. I've sent her a link from eknow how which looks like it may do the job
Thanks

Re: Clean hard drive before selling [Re: Softy_Southerner] #425139
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Are you sure it is not set up with a drive D: as well as the usual C: and with the "restore" system on D?

On my lappy it was even set up as C: D: and E: when I bought it and with the Restore system on D: and a load of (totally useless) freebee software on E:

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Re: Clean hard drive before selling [Re: Snodvan] #425174
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TBH I'm not sure, she's in Devon so I can't see and she's not very techie - what worse than Softie I hear you ask??? - Yes!!!
Hopefull she'll find someone down there that can help

Re: Clean hard drive before selling [Re: Softy_Southerner] #425183
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New HD.


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There is software available to completely erase the hard drive and overwirte the sectors with zeros, I think it's called Webroot window washer. A new hard drive, although expensive would be a sure way of making sure nothing was recovered.


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Originally Posted by Capt_America
New HD.



Originally Posted by Nigel
A new hard drive, although expensive would be a sure way of making sure nothing was recovered.


Thankyou, now thats 3 of us!

Like i said, data can ALWAYS be recovered!

Re: Clean hard drive before selling [Re: _Ste_] #425251
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A new HD is overkill and a total waste of money. Bad advice.

Use Darik's Boot and Nuke... http://www.dban.org/

That will clear the HD to US military spec.

Re: Clean hard drive before selling [Re: MikeT] #425253
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Can't she delete personal details etc
If she formats it or gets a new hard drive how is she or whoever buys the notepad going to install the operating system and any other original programs

Re: Clean hard drive before selling [Re: derekdwc] #425264
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Originally Posted by derekdwc
Can't she delete personal details etc
If she formats it or gets a new hard drive how is she or whoever buys the notepad going to install the operating system and any other original programs

impossible to delete personal details, all logins and passwords can still be retrieved using software.
windows can be installed via usb or memory card slots.

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Originally Posted by _Ste_
impossible to delete personal details, all logins and passwords can still be retrieved using software.
windows can be installed via usb or memory card slots.
Have a quick read up on the ATA standard "Secure Erase". Even forensic grade software isn't be able to recover data erased in this manner. (Technically data can still be recovered, but it involves dismantling the drive and analysing the platter(s) in an electron microscope...)

However, in this case I think your suggested method of a new hard drive and installing Win/Linux from USB is safer option than messing about with hdparm.

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