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#424380 - 10th Aug 2010 12:08pm New Speed Limit Moreton Bypass
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New 40mph Limit as you go over the Fly over from
Bidston Moss (Tesco Roundabout) to Moreton and back.

Its been in place for a week now.
But how long before a speed camera or speed gun awaits you?

It No Longer a National Speed Limit.
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#424382 - 10th Aug 2010 12:20pm Re: New Speed Limit Moreton Bypass [Re: Mark]
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Informative read

A History of Speed Limits
Britain's Speed Limits have come a long way since 1865 when the Locomotive Act restricted the speed of horse-less vehicles to 4mph in open country and 2mph in towns. The act required 3 drivers for each vehicle - 2 to travel in the vehicle and 1 to walk ahead of it carrying a red flag. Hence the Red Flag Act was born.

Speed restrictions as we know them today came into force over 60 years ago in 1934 when a 30mph limit was brought in for roads considered to be in 'built-up' areas. This particular limit is still used today.

Other roads had no limits, until 1965 when the Minister for Transport introduced a 70mph restriction for all roads, which included highways and motorways.

In 1977 the speed limit for cars and motorbikes on dual carriageways was set at 70mph with single carriageways carrying a 60mph limit.

The limits remained untouched apart from a few exceptions, until 1999 when local authorities were allowed to bring in 20mph speed limits without needing to get permission from the Secretary of State.


So Who Sets the Speed Limits in the UK?
The Highways Agency sets speed limits on motorways and the trunk road network. The Government also offers advice to traffic authorities on which speed limits to set in their individual areas. They take into consideration local circumstances and issues and based on their findings, decide on an appropriate limit for their roads, which can be between 20-70mph inclusively.


The Different Speed Limits and Where to Find Them
20mph Speed Limit
Introduced in 1999 and set by local councils, the 20mph limits are mostly used in urban areas, such as residential roads (particularly narrow ones), town centres and around schools and nurseries. The reasons are obvious - where there is a high concentration of pedestrians, it makes sense to keep the limits slower to avoid collisions and accidents. Usually the 20mph will come under a 'zone' which will combine other traffic calming measures like speed humps with the lower limits.


30mph Speed Limit
Also seen in urban areas and villages since its introduction in 1934, there will only be a sign at the beginning of a 30mph zone. This is because roads under this limit are easily identifiable by a system of streetlights. This in itself confuses people despite being rather simple - here's what you need to remember: the 30mph speed limit applies to all traffic on all roads with street lighting unless road signs show that a different speed limit applies. If the road is unlit then there will be repeated 30mph signs along or beside the road for the duration of the limit area.


40mph and 50mph
Introduced to be used in non-built up areas where a higher speed is considered to be safe and appropriate. The beginning of the speed limit must be clearly signed and repeater signs must be placed at regular intervals along the length of road that the limit pertains to.


National Speed Limit
When you enter an area that is signed by a diagonal black stripe on a white background, you are driving under national speed limit restrictions. For most vehicles this will means 60mph on single carriageway roads and 70mph on dual carriageway roads. It is also 70mph on the motorway network unless otherwise indicated.


Temporary Restrictions
Temporary speed restrictions are often put in place to encourage safer driving during road repairs with the intention of making the area safe for those working there. When on Motorways and faster roads they are usually enforced by very visible warning signs and speed cameras.


Speed Limits, Not Targets.
It's important to remember that a speed limit is just that - the top speed that you can drive at on any particular road. It's not a target speed, and just because you are allowed to drive at a particular speed, doesn't mean that it's always going to be safe to do so. For example: 70mph may be fine on a sunny day, but dangerous on an icy, snowy winter morning.

Many factors other than speed come into safe driving, so remember that working out your 'safe speed' will be a continuous assessment for the duration of your drive. With this in mind, take care to ensure that you adjust your speed in accordance with the road conditions and stay always stay within the limits.
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#424384 - 10th Aug 2010 12:50pm Re: New Speed Limit Moreton Bypass [Re: bert1]
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I'm glad that at least the Tesco roundabout has gone to 40 as it was bonkers being a National speed limit roundabout that can get really busy. The Moreton bypass I guess was less needed as it doesn't even have a pavement for most of its length but it's not really going to add much to journey times.

What we need now is a new roundabout on it just before the M53 leading to a new road into the bottom of Bidston / Beechwood (about where the Corsair used to be) then the main road through Bidston village can be blocked of and the village return to (sort of) being a quiet village again not cut in half by a constant stream of cars and buses.

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#424412 - 10th Aug 2010 3:10pm Re: New Speed Limit Moreton Bypass [Re: AR_One]
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Aways thought it was bad that the village was used like that. Must be a government thing though, most estates have one way in and one way out.
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#424448 - 10th Aug 2010 4:07pm Re: New Speed Limit Moreton Bypass [Re: Capt_America]
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i may be wrong, but it looks like Leasowe Road's 40mph limit may be going down to 30 - judging by the amount of lamp posts being "planted" at the car boot end...

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#424488 - 10th Aug 2010 8:32pm Re: New Speed Limit Moreton Bypass [Re: bazzoh]
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wtf? mad
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#424508 - 10th Aug 2010 9:56pm Re: New Speed Limit Moreton Bypass [Re: _Ste_]
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It was a bit bananas - by the time you hit 70, it was time to go down to 30 again (and a lot of people don't realise you can go 70 on a dual carriageway anyway).

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#424509 - 10th Aug 2010 10:00pm Re: New Speed Limit Moreton Bypass [Re: PeteC]
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Originally Posted By: fredbear
It was a bit bananas - by the time you hit 70, it was time to go down to 30 again (and a lot of people don't realise you can go 70 on a dual carriageway anyway).


frown there goes my test track then!
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#424516 - 10th Aug 2010 10:20pm Re: New Speed Limit Moreton Bypass [Re: _Ste_]
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lol

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#424526 - 10th Aug 2010 11:20pm Re: New Speed Limit Moreton Bypass [Re: _Ste_]
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Originally Posted By: _Ste_
frown there goes my test track then!


Back to putting the trade plates on back-to-front then wink
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#424632 - 11th Aug 2010 5:30pm Re: New Speed Limit Moreton Bypass [Re: diggingdeeper]
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i think estates being one or two exits is so the police can catch stolen cars eisier and stuf

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#431128 - 14th Sep 2010 7:59am Re: New Speed Limit Moreton Bypass [Re: raymondo]
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got done on here last night.
unmarked silver volvo estate.
63 in a 40!!
use that flyover everyday and id obviously not adjusted my speed accordingly yet.
anyone else on here been caught here?

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#431131 - 14th Sep 2010 8:15am Re: New Speed Limit Moreton Bypass [Re: delta6]
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Originally Posted By: delta6
got done on here last night.
unmarked silver volvo estate.
63 in a 40!!
use that flyover everyday and id obviously not adjusted my speed accordingly yet.
anyone else on here been caught here?


Seen that volvo outside the Pub on hoylake rd with its lights flashing.
barstard scheming ones at that mad
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#431146 - 14th Sep 2010 10:31am Re: New Speed Limit Moreton Bypass [Re: _Ste_]
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You'd think they'd give you a grace period to get used to it, no-one's perfect.
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#431147 - 14th Sep 2010 10:32am Re: New Speed Limit Moreton Bypass [Re: DavidB]
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Originally Posted By: DavidB
You'd think they'd give you a grace period to get used to it, no-one's perfect.


exactly what i thought.

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