WikiWirral Online with you since 2003, fantastic.
Forum Stats
12455 Members
65 Forums
73759 Topics
997113 Posts
119 posts in the last 24hrs
Max Online: 7831 @ 8th Apr 2013 4:18pm
Who's Online - Click Me
75 registered (alan128, 20 invisible), 1353 Guests and 211 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


(Views 7days)This Weeks Most Read
Submarine Disaster 660
Fitting bathroom lights need help 467
Jon venables 363
Murderer walks free 264
Great Mystery Of Our Time 232
Likely Lad Rodney Dies 157
Charity fishing match 157
David Cassidy 154
Brexit bill 112
Telephone Caller Alert - they are NOT BT BROADBAND 72
New General Forums
Elixir of life.
by granny
Yesterday at 10:15 PM
Great Mystery Of Our Time
by Spellbinder
21st Nov 2017 2:19pm
Brexit bill
by casper
20th Nov 2017 7:33pm
Telephone Caller Alert - they are NOT BT BROADBAND
by Laraine
17th Nov 2017 6:04pm
New Wirral History
Downloadable oldwirral pdfs
by derekdwc
9th Oct 2017 12:26pm
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
clipper yachts arriving for round the world race
Azamara,silouette and balmoral this mornig
Topic Replies
Jon venables
by RUDEBOX
Yesterday at 10:51 PM
Submarine Disaster
by RUDEBOX
Yesterday at 10:44 PM
Water Dispenser Cold Cool Machine Cooler
by markyport
Yesterday at 08:53 PM
3 X Eating / Writing Tables
by markyport
Yesterday at 08:24 PM
Murderer walks free
by fish5133
Yesterday at 07:42 PM
Extending dining table with six chairs
by kazaroo
Yesterday at 07:28 PM
What song are you listening to?
by snowhite
Yesterday at 02:50 PM
Bodytrain 2 in 1 Exercise bike and Cross trainer
by jonno40
Yesterday at 12:17 PM
Borat 😂
by _Ste_
Yesterday at 05:08 AM
November
M Tu W Th F Sa Su
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30
Recent Posts : What's On ?
The Lanterns at Chester Zoo
by granny
16th Nov 2017 1:05pm
bonfire night
by snowhite
3rd Nov 2017 5:40pm
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#421082 - 23rd Jul 2010 1:49pm Wirral Charity worker dies 'racing' boyfriend
_jase_
Unregistered


Charity worker Jennifer Holden dies after 'racing' boyfriend on Wirral road





A CHARITY worker was killed after losing control of her car while apparently racing her boyfriend along a Merseyside road.

Jennifer Holden died when her Vauxhall Corsa collided with a coach driving in the opposite direction on the A41, near Eastham Village.

Witnesses said they saw the 25-year-old and her boyfriend Michael Oakley, who was in a black Skoda, driving side-by-side just after 8am on Saturday May 30 last year.


A cyclist told a Wallasey inquest yesterday she assumed the cars were “two boy racers”, while another witness thought it was a police chase.

Wirral coroner’s court heard Miss Holden overtook her boyfriend’s car before losing control on a bend.

She suffered multiple injuries and was pronounced dead at the scene by a paramedic.

Van driver Robert Slade followed the two black cars from traffic lights at the junction with Old Hall Road, travelling towards the M53.

He said: “I could clearly hear the sound of the Skoda’s engine – it was being revved severely.

“Then as the lights went green, the driver launched the car with excessive wheel spin and a huge cloud of white smoke.

“I then noticed the Corsa as it shot off from the lights with its front wheels juddering severely as the tyres tried to get a grip.”

Mr Slade said the actions of the Skoda driver made him think “stupid idiot”.

He said he assumed the two drivers knew each other because they were looking at each other at traffic lights, had their windows open and were possibly talking.

Mr Slade said the Skoda then braked to let the Corsa to catch up.


At the next lights, he said the Skoda driver was “pulsing the throttle pedal” before launching away “at a greater speed, followed by the Corsa”.

When interviewed by police, Mr Oakley said he was driving at 40mph and denied racing.

He admitted he revved the engine but said he had “no idea” why.

He told officers: “I know I did [go over the speed limit] at the end when I saw Jenny lose control because I just wanted to get to her, but before that, no.”

Terry and Pauline Patrick were at traffic lights waiting to turn into the A41 from Eastham Village.

Mr Patrick told the inquest: “As the black car approached the junction, I saw it being overtaken by another black car.

“As soon as I saw it I thought it was going fast. I would estimate the speed as about 60mph. I said to my wife ‘look at the speed of that’.”

He added: “If I was guessing, I would say they were racing.”

Mrs Patrick said: “I thought the second car was trying to catch the first. I even thought it was an unmarked police car.”

The driver of the coach, who was travelling below the 40mph speed limit, braked but was unable to avoid Miss Holden’s car.

PC James Martindale, of Merseyside Police, said while he was unable to accurately calculate the Corsa’s speed, four independent witnesses said it was a factor.

The Crown Prosecution Service decided no-one should face charges over Miss Holden’s death.

Coroner Christopher Johnson recorded a narrative verdict.


THE ECHO

Top
Google Ads
#421095 - 23rd Jul 2010 2:31pm Re: Wirral Charity worker dies 'racing' boyfriend [Re: ]
PaulWirral
Unregistered


Speechless at the actions of these 2 idiots that has caused the death of one of them. The boyfriend may be relieved that he is not prosecuted but has to live with it for the rest of his life.

Top
#421113 - 23rd Jul 2010 4:03pm Re: Wirral Charity worker dies 'racing' boyfriend [Re: ]
Wench Offline

H4H County Volunteer
Wiki Veteran

Registered: 9th Aug 2008
Posts: 8616
Loc: Second Circle of Hell.
As sad as it is, there's nobody else to blame. I feel for the family and the coach driver but not her. I know that sounds harsh but it was the actions of them both that led to it.
_________________________
Sometimes Police Officers give more than just speeding tickets!

It’s hard to be fit as a fiddle when you’re shaped like a cello!

Top
#421132 - 23rd Jul 2010 6:51pm Re: Wirral Charity worker dies 'racing' boyfriend [Re: Wench]
MrHouston Offline
Addict

Registered: 23rd Nov 2007
Posts: 249
Loc: Wirral
Why are you posting this when it is from May last year? I used to work with the boyfriend Mike and he has been deeply effected by this incodent and it should remain in the past.

Top
#421133 - 23rd Jul 2010 6:57pm Re: Wirral Charity worker dies 'racing' boyfriend [Re: MrHouston]
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master

Registered: 9th Jul 2008
Posts: 10808
Loc: Birkenhead
Originally Posted By: MrHouston
Why are you posting this when it is from May last year? I used to work with the boyfriend Mike and he has been deeply effected by this incodent and it should remain in the past.
The Wirral News has just raised this topic as well as the Echo, I guess the coroner's report or prosecution service statement has just been released.

SOURCE
_________________________
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. Socrates

Top
#421134 - 23rd Jul 2010 7:03pm Re: Wirral Charity worker dies 'racing' boyfriend [Re: MrHouston]
bert1 Offline

Wiki Veteran

Registered: 27th Nov 2008
Posts: 7948
Loc: tranmere
Its been posted because of the inquest, as it happens its News to me, i must have missed it when it happened, if nothing else it should serve as a warning not to play racing on public roads, unlikely anyone reading about this tragedy will learn anything, unfortunately.
_________________________
God help us,
Come yourself,
Don't send Jesus,
This is no place for children.


Bertieone.

Top
#421135 - 23rd Jul 2010 7:20pm Re: Wirral Charity worker dies 'racing' boyfriend [Re: bert1]
_Ste_ Offline


Wiki Master

Registered: 7th Aug 2005
Posts: 16055
Loc: New Brighton
huh, those of you with bikes can keep your `speeding` comments to yourselves!
RIP, thoughts are with the family frown
_________________________


http://www.youtube.com/user/stetopop

Top
#421205 - 24th Jul 2010 10:41am Re: Wirral Charity worker dies 'racing' boyfriend [Re: _Ste_]
Sanchez Offline

Wiki Veteran

Registered: 17th Dec 2003
Posts: 8019
Loc: my house
We have all raced our mates etc and prob still do within reason, shame and waste of young life.
_________________________
Uncertainty or not knowing causes depression, Im happy because I know I'm going to die one day!

Top
#421207 - 24th Jul 2010 11:11am Re: Wirral Charity worker dies 'racing' boyfriend [Re: Sanchez]
MrPhil Offline
Forum Master

Registered: 14th Apr 2006
Posts: 2367
Loc: Prenton
The black Skoda isn't the Octavia is it?
_________________________

Top
#422025 - 29th Jul 2010 2:11am Re: Wirral Charity worker dies 'racing' boyfriend [Re: MrPhil]
Icarus Offline
Member

Registered: 6th Jun 2010
Posts: 49
Loc: usa
Stop making excuses for the idiot boyfriend ......she wouldn't have been racing if it wasn't for him .

I think he should have been prosecuted as an accessory to murder

Top
#422034 - 29th Jul 2010 8:20am Re: Wirral Charity worker dies 'racing' boyfriend [Re: Icarus]
StuyMac Offline

Wiki Master

Registered: 24th Nov 2003
Posts: 12002
Loc: Wirralshire
Sounds like it wasnt the racing or excessive speed, just the fact 2 people were driving side by side and distracting each other.

RIP
_________________________


What If There Were No Hypothetical Questions?

Top
#422102 - 29th Jul 2010 11:24am Re: Wirral Charity worker dies 'racing' boyfriend [Re: StuyMac]
BandyCoot Offline

Forum Veteran

Registered: 7th Dec 2008
Posts: 5368
Loc: Birkenhead
Looks like they were racing to me. Can't believe that people make excuses for it, luckily no one else was hit. It's still a tragedy, but it was an avoidable one.
_________________________
Birkenhead........ God's own Room 101.

Top
#422117 - 29th Jul 2010 12:26pm Re: Wirral Charity worker dies 'racing' boyfriend [Re: BandyCoot]
Capt_America Offline
Forum Addict

Registered: 26th Jul 2008
Posts: 1504
Loc: Wallasey
Not sure that all the witnesses would make up the same story about them speeding. Tragic event, I too, had not sen this in the News last year so it was new to me. Understand why the boyfriend denied speeding, he was bricking it about being prosecuted and devastated at the same time about the death of his girlfriend. The only place to race is on the track and that goes for bikes as well.
_________________________
See you in cyberspace!

Top
#422157 - 29th Jul 2010 3:40pm Re: Wirral Charity worker dies 'racing' boyfriend [Re: Capt_America]
MattLFC Offline
Wiki Master

Registered: 14th Aug 2004
Posts: 22315
Loc: Moreton/Beirut/Mobile
One more moron off the road, hopefully one more moron who may now think twice before putting mine and every other pedestrian and road-users lives at risk, needlessly.

As already stated, very sad tragedy for the families and friends of the deceased, its always the people you care about most who get hurt in these acts of stupidity, but I doubt it will deter anyone else intent on racing, from doing so.

Im just so glad she hit a coach and not a family with childern in a normal car which could have wiped them out, and that the coach driver is okay - serves her right!

frown

Top
#422161 - 29th Jul 2010 3:52pm Re: Wirral Charity worker dies 'racing' boyfriend [Re: MattLFC]
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master

Registered: 9th Jul 2008
Posts: 10808
Loc: Birkenhead
Originally Posted By: MattLFC
One more moron off the road, hopefully one more moron who may now think twice before putting mine and every other pedestrian and road-users lives at risk, needlessly.

As already stated, very sad tragedy for the families and friends of the deceased

withthat
_________________________
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. Socrates

Top

Moderator:  Mod 
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Jon venables
by Dilly
Yesterday at 07:23 AM
Borat 😂
by _Ste_
Yesterday at 05:08 AM
Murderer walks free
by _Ste_
22nd Nov 2017 2:29pm
David Cassidy
by cools
22nd Nov 2017 9:17am
Likely Lad Rodney Dies
by fish5133
21st Nov 2017 7:43pm
For Sale & Free
3 X Eating / Writing Tables
by markyport
Yesterday at 08:24 PM
Bodytrain 2 in 1 Exercise bike and Cross trainer
by jonno40
Yesterday at 12:17 PM
Wheelbarrow wanted
by zigzagwanderer
22nd Nov 2017 2:03pm
Lenovo H30-50 Slim Line Fast PC
by markyport
22nd Nov 2017 12:50pm
Extending dining table with six chairs
by kazaroo
20th Nov 2017 4:46pm
Featured Member
Registered: 16th Aug 2013
Posts: 2125
Newest Members
Ria63, Stephen1953, negusmat, wagonwheel82, Norfolk
12455 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
locomotive (75)
New Wirral Info
Fitting bathroom lights need help
by yr20405
17th Nov 2017 11:29pm
Games for children
by granny
17th Nov 2017 1:35am
Bath Lifts
by locomotive
16th Nov 2017 6:22pm
The Lanterns at Chester Zoo
by granny
16th Nov 2017 1:05pm
Travelling Bus and Train Which Tickets?
by fish5133
15th Nov 2017 5:31pm
News : New Topics
Jon venables
by Dilly
Yesterday at 07:23 AM
Murderer walks free
by _Ste_
22nd Nov 2017 2:29pm
David Cassidy
by cools
22nd Nov 2017 9:17am
Submarine Disaster
by diggingdeeper
20th Nov 2017 5:46pm
Anyone read this ?
by venice
16th Nov 2017 3:22pm
New Enthusiast Forums
Borat 😂
by _Ste_
Yesterday at 05:08 AM
Likely Lad Rodney Dies
by fish5133
21st Nov 2017 7:43pm
Charity fishing match
by paul110180
17th Nov 2017 9:29pm
Are there any doctors or nurses on here.
by granny
16th Nov 2017 11:52pm
Taltalk Broadband Dying
by diggingdeeper
15th Nov 2017 3:40am
(Views 24hrs)Trending Newest Topics
Jon venables 363
Elixir of life. 16
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Fri 7:55am
Sunset Fri 4:03pm
Local Time Fri 5:09am
WikiWirral Can . . . .