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#408460 - 17th May 2010 12:43pm Teenagers Fined for Starting Fires on Bidston Hill
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Wirral teenagers fined for starting tree fires on Bidston Hill



TWO teenage boys have been fined after they were caught setting fire to trees on Bidston Hill.

The 13 and 14-year-olds were given 80 fixed penalty notices by two Police Community Support Officers, who spotted them setting fire to trees with cigarette lighters.


The action follows a joint operation by Merseyside Police and Merseyside Fire and Rescue Service to crackdown on the deliberate starting of grass fires.

Since April 1, the emergency services have received 34 calls about fires in the area.

A multi-agency campaign has seen an increased presence of fire crews and the Threat Response Group.

MF&RS district manager for Wirral, John Davies, said: "Firefighters have been called to an increasing number of fires in Bidston over the last month.

"We have immediately got together with partner agencies such as the police and council to tackle this which has led to an increased presence in the area during the daytime and evening.

"We are now seeing some positive outcomes from this as we make people aware of the dangers and apprehend those responsible.

"Sadly it is a vast area and some people are intent of putting lives in danger by starting fires.

"Hopefully these penalty notices will deter them from lighting any in the future."

Chief Inspector Nick Gunatilleke, from the Force's anti-social behaviour taskforce, said the fines sent a clear message out to other people about the consequences of starting fires.

He said: "These lads have been sent home with a big fine that either they or their parents will now have to pay so hopefully that will stop them doing it again.

"What may seem like a harmless prank to two bored teenagers can actually be incredibly dangerous to them and the wider community if the fire spreads.

"Fires like this also tie up a lot of valuable resources from the emergency services, who could be helping someone in real need elsewhere, and also damage the parks and open spaces that are enjoyed by everyone else.

"The neighbourhood policing team for the area will continue to work with our partners in the fire service and local authority, to build on this good work by our PCSOs so that Bidston Hill and other open spaces are protected from mindless damage like this."

MF&RS has provided Wirral Community Patrol and Wirral Ranger Service with portable water fire extinguisher backpacks to tackle small fires in open spaces.

This initiative has only just started and will help reduce the likelihood of escalation to large scale incidents in areas of open spaces.

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#408465 - 17th May 2010 1:39pm Re: Teenagers Fined for Starting Fires on Bidston Hill [Re: ]
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I suppose 80 is a start - lets hope it deters them from doing it again...
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#408557 - 17th May 2010 7:13pm Re: Teenagers Fined for Starting Fires on Bidston Hill [Re: StuyMac]
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#408697 - 17th May 2010 9:27pm Re: Teenagers Fined for Starting Fires on Bidston Hill [Re: MissGuided]
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#408701 - 17th May 2010 9:30pm Re: Teenagers Fined for Starting Fires on Bidston Hill [Re: MissGuided]
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Bring back the birch!

They tried but the little fekkers kept burning the trees down.
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#408703 - 17th May 2010 9:35pm Re: Teenagers Fined for Starting Fires on Bidston Hill [Re: scoops]
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#408707 - 17th May 2010 9:39pm Re: Teenagers Fined for Starting Fires on Bidston Hill [Re: jimbob]
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i don't see how fining kids will deter them? their parents will have to pay the fine, the kids will think they got away with it :\

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#408708 - 17th May 2010 9:43pm Re: Teenagers Fined for Starting Fires on Bidston Hill [Re: GrandMasterFlash]
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Yea, your not allowed to have the kids repay in skin and blood any longer.
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#408709 - 17th May 2010 9:46pm Re: Teenagers Fined for Starting Fires on Bidston Hill [Re: diggingdeeper]
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#408754 - 17th May 2010 11:42pm Re: Teenagers Fined for Starting Fires on Bidston Hill [Re: ]
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this does seem to have worked over the last few weeks as the has defo been hardly any fire's up hear
but sadley it will probably wear off over the summer months frown lets hope the parents get the message when they are 80 pound down on their beer money lol !!!!

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#408756 - 17th May 2010 11:54pm Re: Teenagers Fined for Starting Fires on Bidston Hill [Re: jfoxy]
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If i had to ever cough up 80 on 'behalf' of Shum-Shum- she would have no phone credit for 8 weeks!!!! mad
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#408763 - 18th May 2010 12:22am Re: Teenagers Fined for Starting Fires on Bidston Hill [Re: RUDEBOX]
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i'm sure something similar happened like this on Bidston Hill in 2006 when there was a chain of fires daily.

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#408807 - 18th May 2010 6:28am Re: Teenagers Fined for Starting Fires on Bidston Hill [Re: Shadow_Omega]
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There was a grass fire on the embankment near Mosslands School the other day, I think in the triangle of land bordered by Fender Lane and the M53. Anyone know about that? Fire engines were in attendance.

I've only recently noticed that everything is tinder dry in spite of all the rain we've had this year. No wonder the firebugs are out and about.

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#408842 - 18th May 2010 12:42pm Re: Teenagers Fined for Starting Fires on Bidston Hill [Re: MikeT]
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Good that they've managed to catch and fine someone - the hill was threatened with ruin again with the numbr of fires!

On the drynes Mike, I can't find some exact figures online but this has been a very dry year again. Think about when it snowed - it was really cold and then dind't rain or snow for about 10 days and then there was about 3 weeks in April with no rain at all.

There's a little bit due in Weds night but we really need some proper downpours otherwise there could be loads of grassland fires again this summer frown

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