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rockster #406824 10th May 2010 10:36pm
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just wish somebody would take control before the country goes to the dogs

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He did the only truly democratic thing in resigning. Gordon Brown was never elected PM and the polls voted labour out so he should go. There has been nothing in the last elections that has given the impression he is wanted at any level.

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Originally Posted by bert1
Should add the process has until May 25th i think, for the Queen's Speech, for someone to form a government.

The Queens speech the theoretical maximum deadline expected, however the real deadline appears to be next week, as they are already planning the re-opening of Parliament for Monday 17th.

Whilst it is true that Gordon Brown has never been elected, the only man that stands before that has any real "legitimacy" to become the Prime Minister is, love it or hate it, David Cameron, based on the election results. If we end up with a Lib-Lab coalition, this will still mean a further 5 years with a completely unelected Prime Minister, no matter who the Labour Party chooses to lead them, so we will be in no better a position than we are now, at least in terms of democracy. Labour should, imho, admit defeat, and the Conservatives should be allowed to form a minority government, they would still have enough to get most proposals through parliament, given the UDP link and the fact Sinn Fein don't take-up their seats, so their majority isnt likely to be so weak, it would only take a few Lib-Lab MP's to abstain or side with the Conservatives to get bills through should they be rejected by the opposition. The Conservatives won the election, both in terms of the popular vote and the number of seats, do we really want to live in a country where we say democracy means the party that wins our elections, by a decent number or votes/seats, ends up being the 3rd party? The Lib Dems do look a little shady right now, the way they are handling the affair, it's almost as though they either wanted Labour all along but Clegg wanted to look honourable, or they are trying to get what they want out of the Conservatives by calling their bluff with Labour... either way, the Lib Dems are in shaky teritory right now, and im no longer convinced they are doing things with the interests of the country ahead of the interests of the party and there members.

I may be the only one to think this, but a minority Conservative government, with no coalition, could just be what the country needs for a year, it means there would have to be more cross-party consensus and agreement (from both the left and right sides of the political spectrum), the Tories would have to be a lot more careful with how they run the country, the decisions they make etc, to ensure they can get their proposals through Parliament, and in a years time we would be sure to go back to the polls for the Conservatives to attempt to try and secure an outright majority, and then we can have a better idea of which party was leading the country best, Labour or the Conservatives.

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It should be remembered that that British voter have never voted for a party leader and seeing as we vote for a constituency MP we have never voted for a PM.Whoever ends up as party leader/ PM is out of our control, though its beneficial to everyone if they have some idea who is at the helm. In the dog eat dog world of politics, now that we know that Brown is going because of Labours poor performance, it wouldn't surprise me if the Tories fail to form a government and are left in opposition, the knives would soon be out for Cameron, after all he failed to deliver a majority government. In the past failed Tory leaders have gone. Regardless of what you hear or read, the order of things for politicians is personal ambition followed by party protection followed by whats good for the country.


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if the labour party hadnt lost john smith, things might of been better.


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Or bitter (bad John Smiths pun)


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MattLFC #407005 11th May 2010 7:23pm
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Now he has said he will ask the Queen to ask Cameron to form a goverment do the tories still need the Lib Dems ?

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Gone!!!

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Originally Posted by KevinFinity
Gone!!!

Not until he has visited the Queen... tonight is possible, tomorrow morning is probable.

Either way, David Cameron will be our Prime Minister tomorrow.

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Nope he is on his way to the Palace right now... he is going straight to the palace, and will not pass GO.

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He's on his way to Buck House now

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Ok maybe I jumped the gun. I'm just so eager to see the back of him.

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He is in the grounds of the palace now.

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