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#393503 - 7th Mar 2010 5:36pm train on lowloader
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I think this engine may have been going to Birkenhead Docks
What route would it have taken to get there
Where were these engines built


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#393508 - 7th Mar 2010 5:58pm Re: train on lowloader [Re: derekdwc]
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Vulcan Foundry/loco works was at Newton-le-Willows (I think). Presume they headed for the East Lancs Rd. (Newly opened), Scotty Rd. Into the tunnel. Leave via the Dock Branch (tight fit maybe), then head towards whatever dock the ship was leaving from ?

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#393581 - 7th Mar 2010 11:49pm Re: train on lowloader [Re: ]
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We've covered this topic in a previous thread but blowed if I can find it!
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#393583 - 7th Mar 2010 11:54pm Re: train on lowloader [Re: bri445]
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Just found it... look up 'Gated roundabouts' in search, March 09.

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#393642 - 8th Mar 2010 1:27pm Re: train on lowloader [Re: bri445]
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that was the one i started about the gates. and going up then off new chester road to avoid the bridge by cammel lairds..

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#393971 - 9th Mar 2010 7:40pm Re: train on lowloader [Re: pacef8]
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Looking at the Vulcan website, I reckon that the loco is one of the following:

1949-50 Works No. #5750-5833 4-6-0, 5'6" gauge Indian Government Railways. (84 loco's)

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#393978 - 9th Mar 2010 8:17pm Re: train on lowloader [Re: w10694]
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Certainly 4-6-0's and they look wider than standard gauge. Good work !

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#393979 - 9th Mar 2010 8:20pm Re: train on lowloader [Re: ]
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Vulcan didn't appear to build many 4-6-0's (other than LMS & LNER versions), and the scene looked 1950'ish.

I'm surprised at it going through the tunnel - as they don't let heavy vehicles through now !

Perhaps that's why !

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#393982 - 9th Mar 2010 8:23pm Re: train on lowloader [Re: ]
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The trailer that the engine is on in the top picture was owned by Edward Box and made by Scammell. It was later owned by Marston Road services and perhaps then to Picford's. There is one in the Leyland museum.

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#393993 - 9th Mar 2010 8:47pm Re: train on lowloader [Re: Historybook]
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Give this link a try, should take you to a short film (i hope).

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=2929

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#394032 - 9th Mar 2010 10:22pm Re: train on lowloader [Re: Historybook]
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just spent a couple of hours looking at Birkenhead vids here
Where was National Union of General and Municipal Workers at Birkenhead


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#394034 - 9th Mar 2010 10:45pm Re: train on lowloader [Re: derekdwc]
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As a totally useless aside, did you know that there was another heavy goods moving company called "Siddle", they pulled out of the business, reversed their name and now make "Elddis" caravans.

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#394058 - 10th Mar 2010 9:59am Re: train on lowloader [Re: w10694]
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can make out Christian Street on side of building
Liverpool?

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#394084 - 10th Mar 2010 11:55am Re: train on lowloader [Re: w10694]
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Originally Posted By: w10694
As a totally useless aside, did you know that there was another heavy goods moving company called "Siddle", they pulled out of the business, reversed their name and now make "Elddis" caravans.


Interesting bit of info; always wondered why the double D
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#394424 - 11th Mar 2010 10:52pm Re: train on lowloader [Re: chriskay]
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This looks like the same type (HPS) of loco with a different paint job, on the E.Lancs Road.


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Description: From 'Vulcan Foundry Locomotives' (publ. Bradford Barton, 1976)




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