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#387124 - 10th Feb 2010 12:37am Teenager filmed dog attack on fox and cat
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A teenager has admitted using a mobile phone to film dogs killing a cat and a young fox on Merseyside.

The 17-year-old, from Kirkby, was part of a gang who goaded the dogs into savaging the animals in 2008. At Knowsley Youth Court, he admitted two counts of causing unnecessary suffering to the animals by allowing dogs to kill them.

The teenager, who cannot be named, was warned that he could face custody when he is sentenced in a fortnight. The court was shown harrowing footage of the attacks, which took place in May and July 2008.

In one clip, a young fox is seen cowering in a cage in a field before large lurcher dogs are encouraged to tear it to pieces. In another piece of film, a black and white cat is stood on by one of the group as the dogs maul it to death.

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The footage was found by Merseyside Police after officers seized the phone during an unrelated inquiry, the court heard. John Elwood, prosecuting for the RSPCA, said the attack on the cat was particularly disturbing.

"The full horror of the pain which the cat suffered can be discerned from the video recording," said Mr Elwood. "It is heard to be constantly wailing as it is torn to pieces alive," he added.

John Hinchcliffe, defending, said his client was just one of a number of people involved in the incidents but regretted his actions.

The hearing was adjourned for pre-sentence reports but Katherine Pye, chair of the bench, said they would be examined "with a view to a custodial sentence". The teenager was released on unconditional bail until the sentencing hearing on 23 February.

Name and shame the fookin piece of shit and if there was any justice they would let the rest of the world deal out our own punishment and turn a blind eye! Or how about get a group of hungry rottys and stick him in Eastham bear-pit with them and video that!!Tease the bastad and tell him we will let him go once he gives up the names of the rest of the scum present... and then leave the dogs to finish him off.

No doubt he will get a suspended sentence or something, because LABOUR like to look after criminals, if I were PM, id bring back hanging for scum like this!!

mad mad

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#387126 - 10th Feb 2010 12:55am Re: Teenager filmed dog attack on fox and cat [Re: MattLFC]
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"Name and shame the fookin piece of shit and if there was any justice they would let the rest of the world deal out our own punishment and turn a blind eye! Or how about get a group of hungry rottys and stick him in Eastham bear-pit with them and video that!!Tease the bastad and tell him we will let him go once he gives up the names of the rest of the scum present... and then leave the dogs to finish him off." MattLFC

How is that gonna work? What you are advocating is no better than the crime inflicted on the cat. Where does that leave you?

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#387128 - 10th Feb 2010 1:00am Re: Teenager filmed dog attack on fox and cat [Re: bobi1]
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Sorry mate, but pricks like this deserve a taste of their own medicine. Where does it leave us? In a society with one less fookin sick bastad, who will never be able to do this shit again.

Don't tell me your from the human rights for criminals squad!!

And it does make me better, because fyi, I would not advocate the crime was carried out on an innocent, only those who do it to others.

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#387129 - 10th Feb 2010 1:03am Re: Teenager filmed dog attack on fox and cat [Re: MattLFC]
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No I'm not, but you see my point surely?

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#387130 - 10th Feb 2010 1:07am Re: Teenager filmed dog attack on fox and cat [Re: bobi1]
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Not really no, your basically saying that people who do stuff like this, should be given a slap on the wrist, and told not to do it again, and left to live a happy and peaceful life.

Would you still be saying that if it was your pet? There is no difference between someone doing this and someone doing the same to a Baby, how can you even consider showing mercy to lowlife scumbags not even worthy of carrying the title of human being that do things like this, and even worse, enjoy it so much that they film it for a second and third helping and so on.

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#387136 - 10th Feb 2010 1:10am Re: Teenager filmed dog attack on fox and cat [Re: bobi1]
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The title of your post speaks volumes, seems like you are judge, jury and executioner, be 100 percent sure of your facts before condemning anyone, otherwise you might be end up in league with Pol Pot and Adolf Hitler.

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#387137 - 10th Feb 2010 1:15am Re: Teenager filmed dog attack on fox and cat [Re: bobi1]
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Oh go away you fkin human rights terrorist, am sick of peeps like you standing up for criminals all the fkin time and ensuring they have an easy ride in life to commit their crimes, terrorise the rest of us honest hard working decent human beings and are looked after on the odd occasion they get caught... the prick has ADMITTED the act, the EVIDENCE proves the case, there is no case to answer, if there was any justice he would get the same treatment as he was happy to watch being dished out upon some poor, innocent and defenceless animals.

Criminals have far far too many rights in this country and as a result they have a very easy ride; dispicable acts like this should never be allowed to happen. And when they do, the punishment should be along the lines of the crime.

As I say, you would soon change your mind if it were one of your own. Until then, keep supporting the criminals - theres plenty of people like yourself in Westminister.

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#387139 - 10th Feb 2010 1:23am Re: Teenager filmed dog attack on fox and cat [Re: MattLFC]
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I'm not sticking up for anyone. I was pointing out tat your response was totally inapproriate because you were advocating violence, just like they had done.

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#387140 - 10th Feb 2010 1:28am Re: Teenager filmed dog attack on fox and cat [Re: bobi1]
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Originally Posted By: bobi1
The title of your post speaks volumes, seems like you are judge, jury and executioner, be 100 percent sure of your facts before condemning anyone, otherwise you might be end up in league with Pol Pot and Adolf Hitler.


fuckin a mate, if it were my dog i caught someone doing that too i`d break their arms and legs so they wouldn`t do it again, criminals don`t listen or care anymore, prison is a load of shite to them too! Capital punishment IS the way forward, he has a point snob


Originally Posted By: bobi1
I'm not sticking up for anyone. I was pointing out tat your response was totally inapproriate because you were advocating violence, just like they had done.


Lol, wake up man, this is 2010 laugh
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#387141 - 10th Feb 2010 1:29am Re: Teenager filmed dog attack on fox and cat [Re: bobi1]
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Yes, I AM ADVOCATING VIOLENCE... not to INNOCENT people, only to the lowlife SCUM who are on this earth only to cause PAIN and SUFFERING to others. He might be pleading his sorrow in court, but thats just for the benefit of lighter sentencing, he not only watched and let it happen (and may have even taken part or helped arrange it) but he actually went to trouble of recording it, presumably to either watch it again and again or to show off to his mates etc...

He does not deserve to breathe the same air as we do... I am not advocating violence or hatred towards a person based on their race, religion, creed, accent, tradition, country or sex etc, simply towards disgusting sick barstard like this who have admitted their crimes and had appropriate evidence against them to back it up. Do you really want people like this walking the streets?

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#387143 - 10th Feb 2010 1:36am Re: Teenager filmed dog attack on fox and cat [Re: MattLFC]
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I hate the scum as much as you do but I won't ever advocate torture as a means to an end.

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#387145 - 10th Feb 2010 1:39am Re: Teenager filmed dog attack on fox and cat [Re: bobi1]
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What happens in 2010 then Ste?

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#387146 - 10th Feb 2010 1:43am Re: Teenager filmed dog attack on fox and cat [Re: bobi1]
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Times have changed, figure of speech, criminals of today only listen by means of violence, they aren`t arsed about prison, thats no deterant anymore.

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#387147 - 10th Feb 2010 1:46am Re: Teenager filmed dog attack on fox and cat [Re: _Ste_]
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So does that means torture is what you advocate?

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#387148 - 10th Feb 2010 1:51am Re: Teenager filmed dog attack on fox and cat [Re: bobi1]
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Not to every criminal, no (but taking away any and all luxuries, and making prison a place of detention and a living hell [without going so far as physical harming etc) would be a good deterrent for most criminals to not to want to end up in there).

But if this scum thinks its okay to torture innocent and defenceless animals, then its okay in my book to torture him as well - in fact, it is quite appropriate! He aint no human or animal, he is scum!

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"The full horror of the pain which the cat suffered can be discerned from the video recording," said Mr Elwood. "It is heard to be constantly wailing as it is torn to pieces alive," he added.

Anyone who has ever had the mis-fortune to stumble across the PETA video's will probably be able to grasp some kind of understanding of what this video and act must have been like. I did unfortunately view one many years ago via a social discussion regarding animal rights on WHT, and within 2 minutes, im not afraid to say it had me in tears, I had to turn it off and I could never ever watch it, or anything like it, again. Just thinking about it now, tears my heart to shreds.

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