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#386760 - 8th Feb 2010 3:07pm Has diesel reached its peak...?
StuyMac Offline

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Originally Posted By: Telegraph
The scrappage scheme has highlighted the benefits of small, cheap petrol engines. We examine the facts behind the predicted demise of diesel.
Diesel. Nasty oily stuff or thrifty saviour? Until fairly recently, you might have said that UK buyers were coming around to the second view.

In Europe, diesel's share of the new passenger car market has grown from 25 per cent to more than 50 per cent during the past decade, but in Britain, from a lower base, growth has been even faster during the same period (from 15 per cent to 43 and a bit).



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#386768 - 8th Feb 2010 3:51pm Re: Has diesel reached its peak...? [Re: StuyMac]
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It's the price, diesel is cheaper abroad than petrol, here it's priced the same or more and the costs of diesel maintenance is greater. Driven both and wouldn't mind diesel again but it is dearer if you only do smaller annual mileages.
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#386769 - 8th Feb 2010 3:57pm Re: Has diesel reached its peak...? [Re: BandyCoot]
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According to that story, petrol and diesel are taxed the same, but there is less diesel that can be got from a barrel of oil, and the refining costs are higher.

I run a derv for the torque - comes in handy when towing wink
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#386775 - 8th Feb 2010 4:07pm Re: Has diesel reached its peak...? [Re: StuyMac]
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I always thought diesel was less refined and therefore cheaper. Always willing be further educated though, someone out there will know for sure. Another phony sounding reason put out for ours to be more expensive is that we haven't got the storage facilities (same as with gas) and therefore they have to buy on the spot market more often and the price is always dearer because it isn't stored ( not much, it's stored on the bloody continent as usual and they take the piss and the money.)


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#386831 - 8th Feb 2010 6:24pm Re: Has diesel reached its peak...? [Re: BandyCoot]
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Diesel is a by product of petrol refining, almost to the point of whats left is what you put in your tank. Almost.

Diesel engines were originally designed and can run quite normally on rapeseed oil, peanut oil etc etc. So i wouldnt write them off yet, as oil is more expensive diesel engines will be more sought after, especially older ones with non high compression fuelling.

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#386847 - 8th Feb 2010 7:47pm Re: Has diesel reached its peak...? [Re: MrB2U]
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Yes, you do get diesel after petrol due to it being a heavier viscosity...

Once the lighter products have been refined though there isnt as much that can be used as diesel...

Originally Posted By: Telegraph
In a typical 35-gallon barrel of light, sweet crude oil there are about 16 gallons of petrol, 8.5 gallons of diesel, 3.4 gallons of jet fuel and 8.5 gallons of heavy fuel oil


Bio diesel is deffinatly the way forward as long as they use chemicals that do not effect the seals in the new high pressure diesel pumps.
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#386858 - 8th Feb 2010 8:18pm Re: Has diesel reached its peak...? [Re: StuyMac]
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Originally Posted By: Telegraph
In a typical 35-gallon barrel of light, sweet crude oil there are about 16 gallons of petrol, 8.5 gallons of diesel, 3.4 gallons of jet fuel and 8.5 gallons of heavy fuel oil


Wow those 35 gallon barrels are cool.
Especially the Telegraph ones that hold 36.4 gallons wink

Gotta love modern journalism and it's accurate fact checking
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#386893 - 9th Feb 2010 2:33am Re: Has diesel reached its peak...? [Re: scoops]
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I drove a diesel Lucida for a bit. It was about 17mpg. Turbo'd diesels are great, but I'll always prefer petrol engines.
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#386996 - 9th Feb 2010 3:24pm Re: Has diesel reached its peak...? [Re: DavidB]
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I run an Aygo now, probably the last car I'll ever have. Handy enough for me and the Frau and the occasional passenger. Only a 1cc engine but don't need anymore now, still zoot around the country in it. 35 annual tax, not bad.
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#387013 - 9th Feb 2010 4:41pm Re: Has diesel reached its peak...? [Re: BandyCoot]
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Diesel owns... unless you want a really powerful car, or have a liking of the quietness and refinement of petrol, personally I would not go for any other fuel. Diesel has better pull and a smoother drive than small/lowpowered petrols and make driving so much better.

Im running a petrol atm, and the difference between the cost of this and the cost of my old diesel is harsh, I can't seem to hit 30mpg at all in normal driving, which is normal, but those with an oil-burner version are always bragging how they are getting late 30's in normal driving.

In my old diesel, I could floor it everywhere and found it hard to see less than 40mpg, simply achieving that in a petrol is a struggle for normal driving. And on a motorway situation, the diesel engines come into their own, my old 12 year old L-Series engine could do about 68mpg, which meant it was cheap as chips to go from one side of the country to the other.

I was also running on Biodiesel, which made it all the sweeter hehe. Now that the price of derv and petrol is the same, it makes little sense to buy a petrol unless you want some high-performance model... when I changed over to petrol, one of the reasons was because at the time diesel kept increasing and and there was about a 10p difference between diesel and petrol... just my fkin luck, that within weeks of me choosing a petrol version of my new car, the price of diesel levelled out and petrol went up.

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#387038 - 9th Feb 2010 7:05pm Re: Has diesel reached its peak...? [Re: MattLFC]
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I run 2 diesel vans and car! Fuel costs for my business are stupid. I just filled up at Tesco yesyerday, at 1.11.9p, thats a tank full at just over 80, 3 times a week per van!!!! The car is on company as well. ok maybe once a week in the car, thats still well over 500 a week!!!
I have been using bio inbetween at 89p litre. Got a mate who runs fuel tankers, can get white diesel at 90p if i buy in bulk (1000L), which i havnt a problem with, need to sort my storage tho!
May be able to sell on at small profit anyone interested??
Its all legit as VAT will be paid and receipts can be produced if required!
Food for thought!!
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#387085 - 9th Feb 2010 9:27pm Re: Has diesel reached its peak...? [Re: hoseman]
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hhhmmm i would be intrested in diesel, i use lots smile

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