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#385889 - 3rd Feb 2010 10:01pm Heswall Camp, Broad Lane
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Does anyone have any information, photos etc about the Heswall Boys Camp? I stayed there (as a cub scout) in the early 70s and happened to be in the area last year and could find no trace of it. Google tells me it was demolished in the early '00s but that's all.

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#385902 - 3rd Feb 2010 10:43pm Re: Heswall Camp, Broad Lane [Re: Roslynmuse]
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I may be wrong on this, if so then I'm sure that someone will put me straight.
I think that the story begins with the Akbar reformatory ship moored in the Mersey for Protestant boys (there was another reformatory ship, the Clarence, for Catholic boys). When the Akbar ship was no longer fit for purpose, a land base was built as a reformatory with a nautical regime. This was at Heswall and was called the Akbar. Its location was NGR SJ253825. Eventually the Akbar Reformatory closed. The site became the Richmond Boys Club with its own open-air swimming pool in 1953. It was renamed Heswall Boys Club in 1965. Girls were admitted as members from about 1972.


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#465477 - 25th Jan 2011 4:10am Re: Heswall Camp, Broad Lane [Re: Roslynmuse]
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The site of Heswall boys Camp is now Regency Lodge - Mental Health Centre.
If you check it out on Google maps satelite images (search broad lane, heswall) you can still see the signs of the old camp but when you zoom into 'street view' Regency Lodge magically appears! oshocked

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#465484 - 25th Jan 2011 8:33am Re: Heswall Camp, Broad Lane [Re: only1pj]
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AKBAR REFORMATORY SCHOOL SHIP, ROCKFERRY, LIVERPOOL (sometimes referred to as Birkenhead).
Certified 3rd January 1856 for 200 boys. An ex Navy ship. In 1909 moved to Heswall on land as Heswall Nautical School, after six months use of the camp there as part of the school, this was certified 29th October 1907 for six months, re-certified in April 1909 for 210 boys. On the 1st August 1912 and again in 1925 the number of boys accepted was reduced to 200. Became Akbar Nautical Approved School .

Auxiliary Home, KEMPTHORNE AUXILIARY HOME FOR BOYS, ROCK FERRY, WIRRAL, for the Akbar and Liverpool Farm School, certified 20th July 1910 for 15 boys. Closed January 1923.

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1866 - Captain Borland; chief officer Mr Willis, replaced Mr Lanford; schoolmaster Mr. Ross. The inspector commented "The 2nd classes (about 45 boys) read in Nos. 3 and 5 of Nelson's series and ciphered will in the compound rules. Their writing from memory on their slates was indifferent."

1867 - Captain Borland R.N., superintendent, chief officer; schoolmaster Mr Williams. Mrs Borland resides on board, contributing most materially to the cheerful and domestic spirit that narks the school.

1868 - Captain Borland, R.N., Mr Butler, chaplain, Mr Williams schoolmaster. Captain Borland resigned after 9th June, 1868 due to ill health and was succeeded by Captain Urmston.

1869 - Captain Urmston, died after a few days illness, shortly after 17th September 1869. He was succeeded by Commander Stephens.

1872 - Captain superintendent Captain Symons, R.N., succeeded Captain Stephens who resigned his command to resume active service in his profession. Chaplain Rev. E Davis; chief officer schoolmaster Mr Glover.

1884 - Superintendent, Captain Edwin C. Symons, R.N., ; chaplain Rev. R.G. Brearey; chief officer Mr J. Callender.

1891 - Captain superintendent, Captain Edward Hicks, R.N,; chaplain Rev. R.G. Breary; chief officer Mr J. Callander; schoolmaster Mr J. Digweed; assistant schoolmaster and bandmaster Mr Thos. Owen.

1893 - Captain superintendent, Captain Edward Hicks, R.N,; chaplain Rev. R.G. Breary; chief officer Mr J. Callander, schoolmaster Mr Bishop; assistant schoolmaster and bandmaster Mr Thos. Owen

1900 - Captain superintendent, Captain Edward Hicks, R.N,; Rev. F.E. Hicks, B.A., was appointed chaplain in August 1899, in succession to Rev. A.G. Child; chief officer Mr W. O'Connor; schoolmaster Mr S. Bishop (provisional certificate); assistant schoolmaster and bandmaster Mr T. Owens, second assistant schoolmaster Mr E.F. Maund; supervisor and seaman instructor Thos. Bowckett; gymnasium instructor John Hignett (twice a week).

1903 - Captain Hicks, who served for 14 years, died on 22nd September 1902 and was succeeded on 1st December by Captain G.L. Bennett R.N,; chaplain Rev. F.E. Hicks; chief officer Mr W. O'Connor; schoolmaster Mr J. A Tarver; assistant schoolmaster Mr J. Matthews. Mr Owens, assistant schoolmaster and bandmaster left 28th February 1903, succeeded by Mr Paul Agnew. Mr Spencer joined as bandmaster and infirmarian on 1st March 1903.

http://www.missing-ancestors.com/ALPHABETICAL%20LIST%20OF%20ALL%20SCHOOLS.htm



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#465487 - 25th Jan 2011 9:08am Re: Heswall Camp, Broad Lane [Re: bert1]
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Sorry, can't make text clearer


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#465518 - 25th Jan 2011 10:41am Re: Heswall Camp, Broad Lane [Re: Roslynmuse]
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http:/www.angelfire.com/BobSanders/tsakabar81html.
This site has it at Higher Bebington Cheshire
Worth a look a list of trainers students etc.
Akabar a teak built indiaman built for the admiralty in 1801 cut down to 60 gun frigate renamed cornwallis?? This was on another site. Good Luck

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