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#382385 - 22nd Jan 2010 5:10pm Mersey Tunnel Tolls Could hit £1.60 in April?
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TUNNEL tolls through the Mersey could rise to £1.60 by April, motorists have been warned.

Merseytravel are meeting on Thursday, February 4 to decide their annual budget.


That will include a decision on whether to raise tolls at the Kingsway and Queensway tunnels connecting Liverpool with Wallasey and Birkenhead respectively, with any affect coming into force in the new financial year in April.

Now pressure group, the Mersey Tunnel Users Association (MTUA), is urging residents and motorists to lobby their local councillors against any rise.

In an open letter to Globe readers, MTUA secretary John McGoldrick said: "As you may remember, any toll rise is based on the retail price index (RPI) for the previous November compared with the RPI for November 1999 - but Merseytravel can decide to levy a lower toll (or even no toll).

"The RPI in November 2009 had not changed from 12 months before, but Merseytravel can in effect implement the toll increase that they agreed but then 'froze' last year.

"This means that they could decide to raise the toll for cars to £1.60, with similar per centange rises for other vehicle classes.

"You'll remember that at Dartford - owned by the Government - the tolls for "locals" were reduced at the end of 2008 to 20p and during 2008 we campaigned for a similar reduction here.

"You may also remember that Wirral Council seemed to support our call, but they and the Wirral MPs that the council said it had written to apparently did nothing effective."

He added: "What you may not be aware of is that in 2009 when the authorities wanted to increase the tolls on the Humber bridge, the Government said 'no' and gave a grant towards the running costs of the bridge.

"Each crossing is of course different, and one difference with the Mersey Tunnels is that they make a large profit and there is no need for a toll rise to cover costs - though Merseytravel may claim to you that they don't make a profit.

"Whatever has happened elsewhere, if people on Wirral don't make representations then a toll rise is quite possible.

"We have asked all our members, that we have email addresses for, to contact the Merseytravel councillors and request that they not increase the tolls."


http://www.tunnelusers.org.uk/

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#382421 - 22nd Jan 2010 7:45pm Re: Mersey Tunnel Tolls Could hit £1.60 in April? [Re: ]
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I've just had a thought, what happened to the 2.5% of VAT off the toll prices last year?

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#382457 - 22nd Jan 2010 9:51pm Re: Mersey Tunnel Tolls Could hit £1.60 in April? [Re: peodude]
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Not sure if they can charge VAT on a toll? I might well be wrong though. However, the VAT reduction was voluntary, but they could not charge 17.5% unless they were paying that level to the government.

Many stores kept their pricing at 17.5% once the VAT reduction hype was over, but only charge and paid 15%, therefore spooning it in; and now they are saying they are holding VAT lol. There is no way are the likes of DSGi suddenly going to give up 2.1% of their revenue just to keep customers happy - so in other words, the consumers have been ripped off yet again.

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#382579 - 23rd Jan 2010 6:16pm Re: Mersey Tunnel Tolls Could hit £1.60 in April? [Re: MattLFC]
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They could cut costs by getting rid of the large number of Tunnel Police , whose main occupation appears to be shuffling traffic cones & sneaking up behind vehicles to catch them doing a couple of m.p.h. over the limit.
The 'work' they do could be carried out by a small recovery service.
The excess profits generated by the tunnels should be used to reduce tolls & not diverted to subsidise other loss-making parts of Merseytravel.
I believe that the corrugated cladding fitted to the sides of the 'Queensway' tunnel is to be relaced.Let us hope that the idiot responsible for the corrugated cladding is not involved in its replacement. The cleaning bill for this over the years must have been astronomical , due to its profile & surface area compared to smooth cladding.

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#382653 - 24th Jan 2010 1:51am Re: Mersey Tunnel Tolls Could hit £1.60 in April? [Re: 8HBob]
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I'd say they need this extra twenty pence.
I think the tunnel does an excellent job being a big hole in the ground that people drive though. If it weren't for the extra money, the tunnel may collapse.

Granted, it's the filthiest, yellowest, least attractive fooking tunnel I've ever seen in my enitre life - what other tunnel makes you want a bath after driving though?! - the roads may feel like you're going down the stairs on your arse, and they do feel the need to close the tunnel some nights so they can save the money on all those bulbs, but the staff really work hard in their little cubicles, raising their hand, and then lowering their hand to give change for the machine. And who would put that massive poppy up at the entrance (surrounded by Liverpool's discarded road signs, traffic cones, etc)?
It doesn't matter if the tunnel was meant to be free of charge once the debt had been paid off in the 1960's.

etc etc etc


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#382691 - 24th Jan 2010 12:48pm Re: Mersey Tunnel Tolls Could hit £1.60 in April? [Re: DavidB]
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Went thru the contra flow yesterday at Liverpool end, and some balloon in a blue Corsa came bombing up the outside lane trying to pass the traffic before the lanes merged. Prob is he didnt judge the length of the low loader infront of me!
Funny as hell as he merged suddenly with the cones and lights!!! What a prick, nobody stopped either, just saw everyone laughing as he was punching his steering wheel!!!
I had great pleasure informing the woan in the booth to let the police know, she cudnt beleive it!! raftl


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#382707 - 24th Jan 2010 2:02pm Re: Mersey Tunnel Tolls Could hit £1.60 in April? [Re: hoseman]
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Corsa drivers - I rest my case no
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#382741 - 24th Jan 2010 4:04pm Re: Mersey Tunnel Tolls Could hit £1.60 in April? [Re: Wench]
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My experience of Corsas at the tunnel was a Corsa full of chavs charging through the gap next to the 'staffed' booth where the bikes are supposed to go through for free. I said to the attendant did you see that?. He didnt and also did not seem to care either. I felt like saying if that's your attitude I will do the same on my way home tomorrow.

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#382831 - 24th Jan 2010 10:31pm Re: Mersey Tunnel Tolls Could hit £1.60 in April? [Re: KevinFinity]
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the tunnel tolls have got to be increased as they are talking about running the tram again out to kirby. As you may remember they went and bought all the tram lines and then the goverment pulled the plug on the money Mersey Travel where going to get from them to pay for the project. So the only way they can raise the cash is soak the motorists who use the tunnels.
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#382869 - 24th Jan 2010 11:54pm Re: Mersey Tunnel Tolls Could hit £1.60 in April? [Re: Wench]
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I must've been distracted one time I went through the tunnel but I flashed my fast tag and didn't recall whether the barrier went up or not (it didn't and I drove straight through it). Once I realised what I had done I stopped, got out, looked to see if there was any damage to my car (no), looked round for someone in authority (none), so got back in car and drove off, no repercussions. raftl

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#383706 - 25th Jan 2010 5:42pm Re: Mersey Tunnel Tolls Could hit £1.60 in April? [Re: bobi1]
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£1.60? no

Glad I've got this:



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#383715 - 25th Jan 2010 5:49pm Re: Mersey Tunnel Tolls Could hit £1.60 in April? [Re: BMW Joe]
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The thing is, if you drove to and from Liverpool the long way, or took the train, bus or ferry, it would cost you more than the return tunnel fare smack
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#383717 - 25th Jan 2010 5:54pm Re: Mersey Tunnel Tolls Could hit £1.60 in April? [Re: Wench]
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True.

I got two return train tickets from Eastham to Liverpool, £6.40 no

I was only going to liverpool for half an hour, would have been cheaper to just pay tunnel and parking
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#383887 - 26th Jan 2010 8:40am Re: Mersey Tunnel Tolls Could hit £1.60 in April? [Re: BMW Joe]
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No increase to Mersey tunnel tolls for another year




MERSEY Tunnel tolls are expected to remain the same for another year.

Public transport authority Merseytravel is set to be advised to maintain the current charges for using the Wallasey and Birkenhead tunnels for all classes of vehicles.


The Mersey Tunnels Act 2004 allows operator Merseytravel to raise tolls in line with inflation without the need to hold a public inquiry.

Tolls for motorists in cars were last increased in April 2008 from £1.30 to £1.40.

Last year Merseytravel agreed to freeze tolls at the 2008 levels for 12 months.

The aim was to ease the financial burden on drivers during the recession.

However, it was expected the rate would increase to £1.60 this year.

But, Cllr Chris Blakeley who sits on the authority board, said he had discussed the tolls with Merseytravelís director of resources.

He said he had been told the recommendation would be to retain the current charges.


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#383888 - 26th Jan 2010 8:41am Re: Mersey Tunnel Tolls Could hit £1.60 in April? [Re: ]
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