Welcome to WikiWirral, sharing is what we do best.
Forum Stats
12452 Members
65 Forums
73748 Topics
996857 Posts
51 posts in the last 24hrs
Max Online: 7831 @ 8th Apr 2013 4:18pm
Who's Online - Click Me
71 registered (8HBob, 12 invisible), 1274 Guests and 259 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us

(Views 7days)This Weeks Most Read
Games for children 983
Fitting bathroom lights need help 332
Travelling Bus and Train Which Tickets? 292
Charity fishing match 277
Replacement Key Fob casing 265
Anyone read this ? 263
Taltalk Broadband Dying 256
Bath Lifts 182
Submarine Disaster 165
Are there any doctors or nurses on here. 127
New General Forums
Brexit bill
by casper
Yesterday at 07:33 PM
Telephone Caller Alert - they are NOT BT BROADBAND
by Laraine
17th Nov 2017 6:04pm
Are you a Mathematician ?
by granny
15th Nov 2017 8:59am
Poor Bruce
by diggingdeeper
15th Nov 2017 1:15am
New Wirral History
Downloadable oldwirral pdfs
by derekdwc
9th Oct 2017 12:26pm
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
clipper yachts arriving for round the world race
Azamara,silouette and balmoral this mornig
Topic Replies
Submarine Disaster
by fish5133
15 minutes 50 seconds ago
Extending dining table with six chairs
by noodles77
Today at 12:53 AM
Fitting bathroom lights need help
by Salmon
Yesterday at 10:52 PM
What is your Daily Exercise ?
by granny
Yesterday at 10:11 PM
Vaping set
by paul110180
Yesterday at 01:45 PM
Charity fishing match
by paul110180
Yesterday at 01:43 PM
Charity fishing match
by paul110180
Yesterday at 01:32 PM
Games for children
by venice
Yesterday at 01:58 AM
Bongos Bingo Ticket
by venice
Yesterday at 12:36 AM
M Tu W Th F Sa Su
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30
Recent Posts : What's On ?
The Lanterns at Chester Zoo
by granny
16th Nov 2017 1:05pm
bonfire night
by snowhite
3rd Nov 2017 5:40pm
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#382006 - 20th Jan 2010 6:04pm Illegal Merseyside Pitbull spared

Illegal Merseyside Pitbull spared in dangerous dog trial

A MERSEYSIDE animal charity has escaped punishment after rehoming an illegal Pitbull type dog with an elderly couple.

Animals In Need in Melling were charged with possession of a dangerous dog after police officers seized Rocky, a Pitbull and Staffordshire Bull Terrier cross, in December 2008.

The dog had been rehomed with married couple Judy and Harry Groves, 69 and 72, who also escaped punishment on the same charge.

The couple, of Outlet Farm, Melling, and charity trustee Fran Ellis, 57, of Hall Lane, were given absolute discharges at South Sefton magistrates court.

Mr and Mrs Groves had given Rocky a home after staff at the Melling rescue centre had struggled to find new owners for the abandoned dog.

Rocky had been with the Groves for only a month when police officers seized him.

The "boisterous" three-year-old dog had been taken in by four families, but was too much for them all. to cope with and was returned

Destructive and difficult to look after, Rocky chewed up kitchens and furniture, the court was told – but had not bitten another animal or attacked a human.

Defence solicitor Lara Smith pointed to statements from Rocky’s four previous owners which described him as "a lovely dog" to prove that the dog posed no threat.

But when Animals in Need trustee Mrs Ellis called police out to check out another dog, Pink – a suspected Pitbull abandoned at the centre – the dog legislation officers noticed Rocky.

His distinctive Pitbull-like appearance immediately raised concerns that he could be a dangerous dog.

But Mrs Ellis told the court in her opinion "the category Rocky fell into was a mongrel with some Staffordshire Bull Terrier."

She added had she had any fears he was a banned dog she would have alerted the police to the fact, in the same way she had done with Pink.

But District Judge Michael Ableson told lawyers the case rested on "type" and he must be convinced that Rocky – a mongrel – was not of "Pitbull type" to find in favour of the defence.

In court the prosecution and defence both called on two expert witnesses who examined Rocky, and all four gave evidence before the court, two finding him to be of dangerous type and the other two disagreeing.

It was Peter Tallack’s evidence that persuaded Judge Ableson.

The former London Metropolitan police constable and dangerous dog specialist who has advised the Association of Chief Police Officers and DEFRA said that he believed Rocky was of Pitbull type.

Mr Tallack, who worked with Merseyside police in the wake of the Ellie Lawrenson tragedy, said Merseyside had a dangerous dog problem.

Telling the court of his arrival on Merseyside he said: "What shocked me and what became evident is that Merseyside and Liverpool is the gateway to the illegal breeds coming in from Ireland."

He admitted that defining dog "type" was subjective and a matter of opinion, but added that in his view Rocky was a good example of an illegal Pitbull cross breed.

Judge Ableson ruled that Rocky was of "Pitbull type" but used his discretion to save the dog from destruction.

The district judge gave all three defendants an absolute discharge and told them that they left the court with no stain on their character and would not be made to pay court costs.

During the trial he told prosecutor Lee Bonner: "As a matter of policy I’m a little troubled about why a 69-year-old woman and a 72-year-old man of exemplary character should have to find themselves facing this trial."

But he conceded that Merseyside Police "are damned if they do, and damned if they don't" seek prosecution in such cases.Outside court, Mrs Groves said: "We’re really looking forward to having Rocky back home. We don’t even know where he’s been held."

The dog will be subject to a suspended destruction order in case of any future attacks on animals or humans.


Google Ads
#382059 - 21st Jan 2010 1:19am Re: Illegal Merseyside Pitbull spared [Re: ]
Tilly Offline

Forum Addict

Registered: 22nd Oct 2009
Posts: 1702
Loc: wallasey
13 months incarcerated, hundreds possibly thousands of tax payers money, time and heartache for all the rescuers hoping to save rockys life...all for a dog who never hurt anyone.

Rocky will now have to live his life out wearing a muzzle and being kept onlead in public but he WILL live. Maybe in his lifetime this ineffective, costly piece of legislation will be repealed and Rocky will finally be allowed to run free again.

About DDA Watch
DDAWatch is a new initiative from the Pet Owners Parliament set up to help monitor "dangerous dog" legislation, to educate and assist those affected by it, while campaigning to find fair, workable solutions that can better protect the public without compromising the lives and welfare of countless dogs who have never acted dangerously.

DDAWatch can also offer assistance to owners if required.
Contact us on :0844 844 2990
or email mail@dangerousdogsact.co.uk


Moderator:  Mod 
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Submarine Disaster
by diggingdeeper
Yesterday at 05:46 PM
Fitting bathroom lights need help
by yr20405
17th Nov 2017 11:29pm
Charity fishing match
by paul110180
17th Nov 2017 9:29pm
Games for children
by granny
17th Nov 2017 1:35am
Are there any doctors or nurses on here.
by granny
16th Nov 2017 11:52pm
For Sale & Free
Extending dining table with six chairs
by kazaroo
Yesterday at 04:46 PM
Water Dispenser Cold Cool Machine Cooler
by markyport
19th Nov 2017 4:45pm
where to get cheap carpet
by mickturner
17th Nov 2017 4:24pm
White radiator single panel 1400 x 600 - good cond
by gerrymoore
16th Nov 2017 9:16am
Samsung Galaxy S7 Titanium Silver + Extras
by j_demo
15th Nov 2017 7:29pm
Featured Member
Registered: 22nd Feb 2010
Posts: 195
Newest Members
wagonwheel82, Norfolk, monadrexx, Dipper, DarioLo
12452 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
New Wirral Info
Fitting bathroom lights need help
by yr20405
17th Nov 2017 11:29pm
Games for children
by granny
17th Nov 2017 1:35am
Bath Lifts
by locomotive
16th Nov 2017 6:22pm
The Lanterns at Chester Zoo
by granny
16th Nov 2017 1:05pm
Travelling Bus and Train Which Tickets?
by fish5133
15th Nov 2017 5:31pm
News : New Topics
Submarine Disaster
by diggingdeeper
Yesterday at 05:46 PM
Anyone read this ?
by venice
16th Nov 2017 3:22pm
Is this crime against humanity
by granny
13th Nov 2017 4:04pm
Wedding for Cancer Research !
by Katemargaret
11th Nov 2017 10:38pm
The EU and us.
by Excoriator
11th Nov 2017 8:44am
New Enthusiast Forums
Charity fishing match
by paul110180
17th Nov 2017 9:29pm
Are there any doctors or nurses on here.
by granny
16th Nov 2017 11:52pm
Taltalk Broadband Dying
by diggingdeeper
15th Nov 2017 3:40am
Replacement Key Fob casing
by fish5133
14th Nov 2017 7:45pm
Insecure sites.
by venice
13th Nov 2017 3:54pm
(Views 24hrs)Trending Newest Topics
Submarine Disaster 165
Brexit bill 12
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Tue 7:50am
Sunset Tue 4:06pm
Local Time Tue 10:19am
WikiWirral Can . . . .