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Ive just read that most of the postal workers are on unofficial "go-slows" to try and hamper the postal service even further, and that the CWU are applying for a court injunction to prevent the Royal Mail taking on 30,000 more staff to help them get out of the dire situation they are currently in, as well as the Xmas period.

I think the government need to pull their finger out of their arses, Mandelson has talked a fair amount of sense with regards the strikes being self-defeating and the process only affecting customers and not bosses, its about time he yeilded an axe, outlawed the CWU, and called for the sacking of any and all postal workers who do not want to work.

At a time when there are 2.5 million people in this country seeking employment, and this figure rising by thousands every day, the Royal Mail would soon find employee's to replace the selfish Grrrs who don't want to do an honest days graft for a fair wage and only want to cause disruption for everyone.

I hope the Royal Mail employ 30,000 agency workers to be honest, most of them seem African and the like, and they don't want to know about the union, they are just happy to be in employment and to be able to afford to live a comfortable life. Again, it's the British attitude of "we don't want to work" that is bringing yet another industry down.

The strikes of the past should be a lesson from history, obviously the CWU and postal workers don't have much in the way of brains to realise that their strike will achieve nothing in either the short-term or the long-term. No matter what happens, there will be job losses in the future, and the service will need to be seriously modernised. Just like every other industry has had to do over the past 30 years.

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The main lesson from history should be the lack of rights workers and working class people of this country and many other countries around the world had prior to the formation of trade unions. We can't go back to the dark days of cheap labour and slavery, where the working people of this country were treated like something off the bottom of your shoe. A lot of rights taken for granted in this present day and age are rights that have been fought for over many generations and they should not be allowed to be eroded at the expense of working people. The fact that you may not be in a trade union you are still classed as a working person. One of the rights fought for over many years was to legally withdraw your labour, though the goal posts have been changed a few times over the years, trade unions still have the right to do so, after a ballot and should have no fear of retribution, they also have the right to work to rule, without fear of retribution. If trade unions stick to their side of the bargain then why can't employers, Trying to break a strike by employing whats known as scab labour will never solve anything.


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I've never been in a trade union but I agree with Bert

Anyway about modernising industry - what industry?
Greater profits are made by buying from other countries
How often do you see Made in England or UK on anything now
All been sacrificed for the "We must have more profit crowd"

When I left school there was no reason to be on the dole because there were loads of jobs available

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Originally Posted by BBC News
Three days of nationwide postal strikes will go ahead as planned this week, the union has said.

Strikes will begin at 0400 GMT on Thursday, with up to 120,000 workers involved in the stoppages.

Royal Mail condemned the union's decision to walk away from negotiations and go ahead with the planned industrial action.

Royal Mail and the Communication Workers Union had been in talks for three days to try to end the dispute.

The two sides began the latest round of talks on Monday, after agreeing to meet at the headquarters of the TUC, where the agreement to end the last national dispute was brokered in 2007.

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Royal Mail claimed there had been "significant progress" in the talks and urged the union to come back to the table.

"We were once again on the verge of a sensible agreement that would have allowed us to enter into in-depth discussions with the union over the future of Royal Mail in an atmosphere of calm," said Royal Mail's Mark Higson.

"But just like last week the CWU leadership has failed to carry its own Postal Executive Committee, which appears to be split with London members at odds with the rest of the country and unable to reach any decision.

"We had made huge progress with the help of the TUC when the CWU came back from their executive meeting with a whole new series of demands."

Argh, that means my RRT4 won't get delivered till next week now!! I recieved another TopUp TV card today, they sent one out to me via DHL yesterday... the original card was sent out in September and the lazy barstard at the Royal Mail have still not bothered to deliver it... either that or one of the theiving barstard has nicked it!!

So now TopUp TV are using DHL for pretty much all their logistics, another major Royal Mail customer lost thanks to the lazy barstard postal workers not wanting to do an honest days work for a change.

And still, the bosses will get their 6 figure pay packets, and there will be more loss of custom, leading to far more job losses, and at the end of the day, the service (or whats left of it) will still need to modernise to survive and remain viable. As for us mere customers, well as far as the postal workers are concerned, we are all pieces of shit who can go to hell. Meanwhile, hundreds, in fact thousands, of small businesses, some who rely on the postal service, are struggling to survive, and in some cases going out of business as a direct result of these selfish barstard.

Can someone tell me what exactly they are achieving here?

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judging by the news reports very little at the moment. all they want is extra pay (for the millionith time already) and be treated as if they were the dog's balls. for god sake either accept the pay you've got or get another job it's that simple. there's millions looking for jobs atm so unless the lazy posty's want to join the ranks i would say they need to get over it.

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Well imho, they already overpaid - I mean ffs, who else, in the current climate, can take 5 days unpaid... obviously they are earning far too much money because if they wernt, they wouldnt be striking.

They should have their pay cut, and the savings should be passed on with no stamp price-increases, their way of an apology to the millions of customers being affected by the good-for-nothing lazy Grrrs.

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Originally Posted by BBC News
The Communication Workers Union (CWU) has announced two more strike days for Friday, 6 and Monday, 9 November.

Unlike the current strikes, which have involved members in different roles striking on different days, the two new dates will be all-out strikes.

The second day of the latest action has involved 400 workers at three sites in Plymouth, Stockport and Stoke.

Meanwhile, the backlog of undelivered mail caused by the strikes has risen to 35 million items, Royal Mail has said.

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The Communication Workers Union (CWU) is going to the High Court on Friday to seek an injunction preventing Royal Mail from using 30,000 agency workers.

It accuses Royal Mail of using agency workers as strike breakers to do the work of CWU members involved in the continuing UK-wide industrial dispute.

Royal Mail said its use of temporary staff was "entirely in line with all employment law".

Talks between the two sides to end the strikes are due to resume on Tuesday.

"The up to 30,000 directly engaged, fully vetted temporary workers being hired by Royal Mail to help us clear any mail delayed by strikes, and help with Christmas volumes are entirely in line with all employment law," said a Royal Mail spokeswoman.

"In addition we normally use agency staff throughout the year to help cover sick and holiday absence and fluctuations in volumes, as well as higher volumes at Christmas.

"These agency workers are not hired to do the work of postal workers when they are on strike and also completely in line with employment law."

Rmember folks, it is the CWU and their members and supporters, ie YOUR POSTMAN, who are trying to stop you recieving a postal service. They are even being hostile towards other companies such as UK Mail who are simply trying to do their jobs.

The postman involved in this action are arrogant, selfish and pathetic Grrrs who should be sacked; hopefully the take-on of these 30,000 temp workers, will pave the way for the eventual sacking of the ... who don't want to do an honest days work and instead want to make everyone elses life a misery.

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