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#341343 - 8th Aug 2009 11:01pm What is this structure?
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OK, possibly wrong forum, so forgive me if it is.

I was at New Brighton today, on the Dips. I noticed this brick structure - grey engineering bricks - made me think railway related. But its not near the railway.

Can someone tell me what it is? Is it just where they have girded up the land so it doesn't slip? It is in front of the tower blocks.

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#341384 - 9th Aug 2009 10:08am Re: What is this structure? [Re: MissGuided]
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As a guess it might be blocking up caves or tunnels?? I think read somewhere its called the noses and in victorian times there was a lot of caves along this bank.

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#341385 - 9th Aug 2009 10:17am Re: What is this structure? [Re: ghostly1]
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This is apparently Red Noses

'The Red Noses are sandstone outcrops above which William Rowson built his home, Cliff Villa. This is possibly the building on the extreme right of the card. Cliff Villa was demolished in 1960. The land is now occupied by a multi-storey building of flats know as the Cliff Estate.
Before its demise Cliff Villa was, in the 1930s, home to the Guide Dogs for the Blind Committee (later the Guilde Dogs for the Blind Association).
The three buildings on the left are Ewart House, Ewart Villas and Rock Villa. Ewart House has since been replaced by the flats of Portland Court.
Card 27, dated 1905, has a similar view of the rocks and houses.'
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#341391 - 9th Aug 2009 10:44am Re: What is this structure? [Re: MissGuided]
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Ill ask my dad today - see if he knows smile
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#341399 - 9th Aug 2009 11:30am Re: What is this structure? [Re: StuyMac]
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tunnels

I have herd there was the worm holes there
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#341442 - 9th Aug 2009 5:00pm Re: What is this structure? [Re: Pete_Robbo]
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Have they been 'robbo-d' yet, i wonder?'
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#341495 - 9th Aug 2009 10:30pm Re: What is this structure? [Re: RUDEBOX]
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Have they been 'robbo-d' yet, i wonder?'
He'll need something to get through engineering brick omg
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#341525 - 9th Aug 2009 11:42pm Re: What is this structure? [Re: MissGuided]
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It indeed the Noses. I also believe that the caves use to stretch all the way to 'Rock Villa' house on Wellington Road and could be accessed via a manhole in the garden but is blocked up.

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#341530 - 10th Aug 2009 12:10am Re: What is this structure? [Re: MissGuided]
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Have they been 'robbo-d' yet, i wonder?'
He'll need something to get through engineering brick omg
dont know what that is. Never saw it or heard of it.
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#341536 - 10th Aug 2009 7:23am Re: What is this structure? [Re: MissGuided]
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Originally Posted By: Snooze
OK, possibly wrong forum, so forgive me if it is.

I was at New Brighton today, on the Dips. I noticed this brick structure - grey engineering bricks - made me think railway related. But its not near the railway.

Can someone tell me what it is? Is it just where they have girded up the land so it doesn't slip? It is in front of the tower blocks.

Thanks.


I believe that it is just a retaining wall, as many years ago as a kids we used to play there before it was built & I don't remember any caves just there. The rock to the left of the picture was a lot higher then as well!

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#476478 - 23rd Feb 2011 4:12pm Re: What is this structure? [Re: MissGuided]
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if you look to the right of the picture of flats known as the cliff,you will see what is left of the railway shunting yard at the warren station,part of the platform is still visible,one of the reasons i know quite a lot about new brighton is that in the fifties when i was very young my father was landlord of the travellers rest bottom of rowson street,i used to spend some time with some of the old timers who worked locally.

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#476487 - 23rd Feb 2011 4:29pm Re: What is this structure? [Re: MissGuided]
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The railway was/is set well back from this wall, in fact it was inland of The Cliff.

I believe this wall was built around WW2 and may be part of the gunsite infrastructure.

Warren Station was at the end of Sea Road (which has been shortened), what is now the middle of Links View where it takes a 90 degree turn.


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#476556 - 23rd Feb 2011 6:53pm Re: What is this structure? [Re: diggingdeeper]
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other than wormhole caves, the other cave entrances would have been much lower as the area is backfilled to create the promenade
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#476570 - 23rd Feb 2011 7:44pm Re: What is this structure? [Re: jabber_Ish]
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Just a retaining wall and was there when I was a kid so Tatey mate, you can't remember it being built as it was there at least since they built the new prom in the 30's. Mind you, you could be a really old feller for all I know? smile

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#476847 - 24th Feb 2011 8:35am Re: What is this structure? [Re: Helles]
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Just a retaining wall and was there when I was a kid so Tatey mate, you can't remember it being built as it was there at least since they built the new prom in the 30's. Mind you, you could be a really old feller for all I know? smile


Interesting! I certainly do not remember it being there say, 57 years ago when I was a nipper, but you may well be correct. I am sure that that rock was a lot bigger though!!!

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