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#306016 - 1st Apr 2009 11:12pm Smugglers cave in Heswall
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does anyone have any info on a smugglers cave in Heswall
I think some wives of the smuggles were all killed there


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#306024 - 1st Apr 2009 11:41pm Re: Smugglers cave in Heswall [Re: derekdwc]
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It was still there in 2005, can't be that difficult to find you'd think. Is that Greg's book?
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#306090 - 2nd Apr 2009 11:30am Re: Smugglers cave in Heswall [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Not sure which book
I just happened to glance thru it at the main reference library while waiting to look at some photos

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#306132 - 2nd Apr 2009 3:55pm Re: Smugglers cave in Heswall [Re: derekdwc]
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any idea where it could be?. ive got a thing for caves and tunnels. went to see the Bidston Hill tunnels but they have all been closed up.

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#306180 - 2nd Apr 2009 5:20pm Re: Smugglers cave in Heswall [Re: derekdwc]
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Originally Posted By: derekdwc
Not sure which book
I just happened to glance thru it at the main reference library while waiting to look at some photos
Greg Dawson.

I have no idea where it is, but there is always talk about smugglers on the gulley that leads up to The Dungeon, there is also mention of a smuuglers cave in Thurstaston Village, whether that is tied to the tunnel that was found or independent I don't know.

When the Wirral Tour Bus included a Smugglers Cave on it's tour around the Heswall area in 2005, it *implied* that access to the cave is normally restricted ie it is on private property.

I think there is a bit of a cave on heswall dales but is about as exciting as The Dungeon.

Many Smugglers Caves around the country turn out to just be little nooks and crannies that Smugglers may have used to hide stuff - not on your tunnel scale. Red Rocks springs to mine as being similar in stature to some I have seen.
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#306266 - 2nd Apr 2009 9:53pm Re: Smugglers cave in Heswall [Re: diggingdeeper]
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just think that in a hundred years time people will be talking about the mersey tunnels {road} as been the drug dealers tunnels from liverpool to the wirral
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#306280 - 2nd Apr 2009 11:02pm Re: Smugglers cave in Heswall [Re: jimbob]
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I didnt know anything about that cave. Good find !
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#311046 - 20th Apr 2009 9:04pm Re: Smugglers cave in Heswall [Re: Doctor_Frick]
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this could interest UEs and ghosthunters and historians




By the croquet lawn at the far side of the old house called The Cave, Thurstaston Road, Heswall
is a stone summer house.
Behind the walls of this summer house is the large entrance to a smugglers cave
The doorway is 5ft 9ins high by 2ft 6ins wide opening out to an oval shaped room 8ft 6ins by 9ft ins

long and 6ft 1ins high
Authentic dates chiselled in the rock start in the 1800S altho smugglers wouldn't put their names
or dates on. It is estimated over 250 years old or earlier


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#311048 - 20th Apr 2009 9:07pm Re: Smugglers cave in Heswall [Re: derekdwc]
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Can anyone around Heswall say where it is and put a map up please

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#311049 - 20th Apr 2009 9:08pm Re: Smugglers cave in Heswall [Re: derekdwc]
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#311051 - 20th Apr 2009 9:13pm Re: Smugglers cave in Heswall [Re: derekdwc]
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm thinkinteresting. thanks for the heads up derek. thumbsup

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#311053 - 20th Apr 2009 9:18pm Re: Smugglers cave in Heswall [Re: ]
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#311077 - 20th Apr 2009 10:36pm Re: Smugglers cave in Heswall [Re: Pete_Robbo]
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#311095 - 20th Apr 2009 11:18pm Re: Smugglers cave in Heswall [Re: ]
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Fantastic Derek ....

Here is a google earth of "The Cave" house and where I think the smugglers cave is. They house appears on ordinance survey maps since about 1890 and the smugglers cave is on the maps from about 1890 to 1920. I am guessing the actual location of the cave because one map has the label west of this point and another map has the label east of this point. I will have a distant nosey tommorow early evening.


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#311105 - 20th Apr 2009 11:59pm Re: Smugglers cave in Heswall [Re: diggingdeeper]
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excellent D,D. THANKS happy

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