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#293776 - 21st Feb 2009 7:55pm 103 Shakespeare Hotel 234 Chester Street
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Shakespeare Hotel on the corner of Chester Street and Waterloo Place



The Prince Alfred is on the opposite corner (on the left).




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#294027 - 22nd Feb 2009 7:47pm Re: 103 Shakespeare Hotel 234 Chester Street [Re: uptoncx]
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Just to correct the caption. The Shakespeare is the Pub on the left and the Prince Alfred is the Pub on the right.

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#294037 - 22nd Feb 2009 8:29pm Re: 103 Shakespeare Hotel 234 Chester Street [Re: yoller]
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dont know how many times we have made this correction regarding the shakespeare been on the left hand side of waterloo place. when i read the caption last night i thought NOT AGAIN
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#524306 - 27th May 2011 6:11am Re: 103 Shakespeare Hotel 234 Chester Street [Re: uptoncx]
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Never mind the Pub. WHY is there a coke brazier in the middle of the tram tracks ?

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#726030 - 18th Sep 2012 8:54pm Re: 103 Shakespeare Hotel 234 Chester Street [Re: ]
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this would probably be a cocky watchmans fire
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#726052 - 18th Sep 2012 9:27pm Re: 103 Shakespeare Hotel 234 Chester Street [Re: dool4lit4tle]
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They are the rails for horse drawn trams. The electric cars needed heavier rails and were laid (or re-laid)to a higher specification. This included the way the sets were to be laid around them. Note the pattern here and compare with the later ones.
This could have been taken around the time of the conversion, circa 1901. The photo is comparable with others taken on Borough Road at the time, which also include a watchmans fire.
Note the numbers to the right of the doorstep - 2604. I don't know what it is for, but in the Borough Road ones, the photographer kindly included a board with the date on it.


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#726197 - 19th Sep 2012 10:07am Re: 103 Shakespeare Hotel 234 Chester Street [Re: yoller]
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Originally Posted By: yoller
Just to correct the caption. The Shakespeare is the pub on the left and the Prince Alfred is the pub on the right.

confirmed on map


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#726273 - 19th Sep 2012 3:02pm Re: 103 Shakespeare Hotel 234 Chester Street [Re: derekdwc]
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I notice on the map it's spelled "Shakspere". Anyone know which it was?
(I would have expected the Ordnance Survey to get it right).
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#824549 - 13th Sep 2013 11:09pm Re: 103 Shakespeare Hotel 234 Chester Street [Re: uptoncx]
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a pic


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#826393 - 20th Sep 2013 10:17pm Re: 103 Shakespeare Hotel 234 Chester Street [Re: derekdwc]
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The Shakespeare in December 1965.


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#826419 - 21st Sep 2013 8:06am Re: 103 Shakespeare Hotel 234 Chester Street [Re: uptoncx]
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wow, it took a while to get my bearings but the above pic is exactly where the wall is then to the end of the shops were pc word is isn't it.
If so then its totally unrecognisable.


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#826451 - 21st Sep 2013 11:10am Re: 103 Shakespeare Hotel 234 Chester Street [Re: SUExx]
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But.. you recognised it.
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#826467 - 21st Sep 2013 12:55pm Re: 103 Shakespeare Hotel 234 Chester Street [Re: ZipperClub]
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But.. you recognised it.


No actually, I looked on street view to make sure I had the right place and followed road to the end where pc world is.

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#826468 - 21st Sep 2013 1:09pm Re: 103 Shakespeare Hotel 234 Chester Street [Re: marty99fred]
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Good picture, not seen that one before. It also gives us an idea when the Prince Alfred was demolished, as the ground seems freshly cleared.

My best guess is that its location is now part of the central reservation between the northbound lane going to the flyover / link road to Central station, and the southbound lanes coming from the Woodside direction towards Lairds main gate roundabout.

In the background, far left, is the old railway bridge which got replaced with a wider one to coincide with the new road layout. This became redundant and was eventually removed. The area of the railway sidings became the new trading estate. The PC world building, at the north end, was actually a later addition to the others, but in the same style. Just wind back Google Earth to 2000 and you'll see.

I don't think the road alignment moved very far on the river side of New Chester Road at this point, perhaps only the width of the pavement, while the west side, including the pubs, were completely demolished for the approach roads.

The picture below is taken from almost the same place as the one above. As far as I can tell, the bus is cutting through the last part of Wellington Place, intended to be a works access, but he had come along the wrong bit of road in error. ( I know, I was there!)


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Description: Wellington Place makes way for the new New Chester Rd. c 1968




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#826612 - 21st Sep 2013 9:39pm Re: 103 Shakespeare Hotel 234 Chester Street [Re: SUExx]
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I would never in a million years of recognised it.
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