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#204271 - 5th Feb 2008 2:08pm Fifth Gear - VXR8 v Lotus Carlton!
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Dont know if anyone else saw this, but I just couldnt leave teh house until I had seen the result....

1990 Vauxhall Lotus Carlton V New VXR8

Despite the Carlton being 18 years older than the new VXR, with brake / suspension / chassis technology being 18 years older also, it was respectably only 1.5 secs behind thumbsup

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#204273 - 5th Feb 2008 2:15pm Re: Fifth Gear - VXR8 v Lotus Carlton! [Re: StuyMac]
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So are all Vauxhalls Bad ????????????????????

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#204274 - 5th Feb 2008 2:18pm Re: Fifth Gear - VXR8 v Lotus Carlton! [Re: Cali_16v]
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errrrrr...... nope !! but i'm like you cali, i'm biased...(this is jonah btw)
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#204275 - 5th Feb 2008 2:21pm Re: Fifth Gear - VXR8 v Lotus Carlton! [Re: Cali_16v]
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think

Well, the Carlton is more Lotus than Vauxhall, and the fact it is only 1.5 secs behind its modern day counterpart shows how little Vauxhalls have evolved. The VXR has modern brakes, suspension, chassis design, aerodynamics, not to mention more cc's and power.
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#204276 - 5th Feb 2008 2:22pm Re: Fifth Gear - VXR8 v Lotus Carlton! [Re: chiccy]
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got to add the monaro.

If i ever move to Oz will have to get one of these ......




GM bring this over here.
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#204277 - 5th Feb 2008 2:24pm Re: Fifth Gear - VXR8 v Lotus Carlton! [Re: Cali_16v]
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jonah said there are some for Sale on ebay as we speak....oh and a holden commodore prototype too !!!!!!!!!
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#204278 - 5th Feb 2008 2:26pm Re: Fifth Gear - VXR8 v Lotus Carlton! [Re: Cali_16v]
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You could fit a fair few sheep in the back of that Baby smile

Originally Posted By: Cali_16v
got to add the monaro.

If i ever move to Oz will have to get one of these ......




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#204287 - 5th Feb 2008 2:51pm Re: Fifth Gear - VXR8 v Lotus Carlton! [Re: chiccy]
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They got the 4 door monaro and only 9000.


Hummmm me thinks bye bye focus and calibra.
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#204408 - 5th Feb 2008 7:09pm Re: Fifth Gear - VXR8 v Lotus Carlton! [Re: Cali_16v]
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Lotus Carlton every time for me...theres actually one by me here in preston...I see it everyday I leave my flat.....absolutely immense...you can really see the green/black paint work it magic..beautiful....
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#204417 - 5th Feb 2008 7:22pm Re: Fifth Gear - VXR8 v Lotus Carlton! [Re: MGCraig]
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bloke across my road has a lotus carlton on his drive, dont think i've ever seen it move tho... also got a merc and mg zt lol

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#204425 - 5th Feb 2008 7:27pm Re: Fifth Gear - VXR8 v Lotus Carlton! [Re: Davey_Martin]
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#204427 - 5th Feb 2008 7:28pm Re: Fifth Gear - VXR8 v Lotus Carlton! [Re: MGCraig]
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id have the carlton before the vxr its a beauty

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#204431 - 5th Feb 2008 7:30pm Re: Fifth Gear - VXR8 v Lotus Carlton! [Re: Cali_16v]
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Or it's cheaper brother



the carlton GSI is a 3000cc engine, which i assume is the same engine they gave to lotus to up it to 3600cc to then bolt 2 turbos onto to create the Lotus Carlton.
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#204567 - 5th Feb 2008 10:55pm Re: Fifth Gear - VXR8 v Lotus Carlton! [Re: Cali_16v]
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Originally Posted By: Cali_16v
Or it's cheaper brother



the carlton GSI is a 3000cc engine, which i assume is the same engine they gave to lotus to up it to 3600cc to then bolt 2 turbos onto to create the Lotus Carlton.


2 garret T25's bolted on, the engine is a enlarged gsi engine, Corvette gearbox, 377bhp iirc. Next door neighbour had one in the 90's a year after they had come out, he chopped his Rs500 for one lucky get was only 23 at the time doh

The paintwork is Beautiful tho, as is the wheels.
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#205691 - 9th Feb 2008 10:15pm Re: Fifth Gear - VXR8 v Lotus Carlton! [Re: StuyMac]
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The Carlton is more GM than Vauxhall. It has a Corvette gearbox, and tuned Vauxhall engine with new pistons, rods and crankshaft and two turbochargers. The rest was pretty standard upgraded fare.
The VXR8 is more australian muscle car than Vauxhall though. It has an american engine, a similar gearbox and a 15 year old chassis.

The Carlton was a one off really, I'd never put it in the same league as a VXR8, it's much much better.
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