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#193227 - 11th Jan 2008 11:55pm car park fines..... *****
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Asda are rolling out fines across the uk for anyone wrongly parked in a disabled spot, or anyone without children in a parent/child spot. This is being done after a long trial in Scotland......bout time to put a kerb on those inconsiderate shoppers out there !
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#193269 - 12th Jan 2008 2:30am Re: car park fines..... [Re: jonah]
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lol u shud stay away from wer me sean and jimmy live terrible for parking me mum had so many parking tickets as the road is double yellows no wer to park !!!!

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#193272 - 12th Jan 2008 2:35am Re: car park fines..... [Re: Brummy_Ben]
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what about parkin their at 3am in the morning? would you get a ticket? (to the asda question)
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#193290 - 12th Jan 2008 8:34am Re: car park fines..... [Re: MrPhil]
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I feel very strongly about the arrogant, ignorant slimebags that abuse the disabled/parent-child only bays. Amazing how many sprightly folk abuse the blue badge system in general!

Clamping has had a bad press of late, but this is an ideal situation for Asda's etc. to employ clampers. £100 fee to release. If you do it a 2nd time - car towed away and crushed with NO appeal.

A few months ago, whilst I was loading up the shopping into the car, someone pointed out an obviously disabled and elderley bloke who had to hobble a long way to/from his car (blue badge holder). The disabled bays were full. about 50% of them didn't have badges. Taking my trolley back, I and someone else commiserated with the chap at the situation. He smiled thinly and said it was a pity he wobbled with his trolley whilst passing one of the offending cars ! I took a sneak look..... well done that man !!

Sorry the above is a bit on the long side. Thought it worth relating though.

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#193292 - 12th Jan 2008 9:18am Re: car park fines..... [Re: ]
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dont apologise, i totally agree mate !
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#193293 - 12th Jan 2008 9:19am Re: car park fines..... [Re: ]
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I agree with the disabled system. I will never park in a disabled place and dispise anyone who does that isnt disabled.

The parent and child system is a con to get more families to shop at the likes of Asda and Tesco... as Waddi, who uses the system himself having kids, has in the past pointed out, if the system was to make things safer and and easier for parents with kids, the spaces wouldnt be placed in the busiest part of car parks (ie. the front), they would be placed further away from the supermarkets where the is both less danger to the children, and less resentment amongst other drivers.

As both Sean and Ben can testify, me and Stacey used a "normal" parking space the other day in Tesco, a bit further away, with a 1yr old Baby in the car, and we had absolutely no problems in using it. There wasnt any need for more space, and all the parent and child spaces were used. In actual fact, to be honest, I wouldnt have wanted to get him out in the busier part of the car park where the general dogfight for spaces takes place.

As I say, I sort of support the parent and child scheme... but as to why a parent, who bear in mind has had thier child/children through choice (a disabled person doesnt have such choice), and knows they must be prepared to make sacrifices beforehand, should have preference over everyone else, is wrong. It is simply because the likes of Tesco know that they will spend more money then a shopper with no children, so they do whatever they can to attract them into the store.

Place the spaces in a more suitable place, and I will support it fully. Tesco dont do anything for anything other then profit, so anyone who thinks its done to help customers is badly mistaken; this multi-billion pound company hasnt even been arsed to fix the water pump in the petrol station in Bidston for over a month now, and the air pump has now been off for over a week; yeah, every little helps... Tesco! They wont spend the money till there is a certain level of complaints, cos holding out on paying for things like that (which make thier customers life much easier) make them interest, which in turn makes them profits. Funny how the shell down the road never has any problems keeping their air compressor maintained...

This wont bother me too much anyway, as I dont shop at Asda, and its not often I shop at "sociable" times. Even at night, I refuse to park in a disabled space. I dont care either way about a parent and child space, if its there to be take, it is. There is plenty of the "required" space a bit further down the car park, in bay 2 and the overflow (both of which are more suitable as they have far less traffic using them) that parents can use, but refuse to, instead they refuse to walk the distance... its the disabled that are disabled, not parents with kids.

And another thing I dont agree with is the governments stupid rules over parents not being allowed to get disabled badges when they have disabled children; in my view, anyone who is registered as disabled should be eligable for a disabled badge, and if under 18, the legal guardian should be automatically eligable for the badge.

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#193306 - 12th Jan 2008 9:55am Re: car park fines..... [Re: MattLFC]
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well said .there is a general election soon ..fancy it
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#194813 - 14th Jan 2008 1:05pm Re: car park fines..... [Re: jonno40]
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Yeah i agree with Matty here, Well said mate thumbsup

As for the parking down mine and bens road thats just crap, I myself got a ticket the other day cause i couldnt find anywhere to park so i put it on the yellows like "everyone" else does around here lol

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#194826 - 14th Jan 2008 2:34pm Re: car park fines..... [Re: Civic_Coupe_Sean]
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Good idea but I think supermarkets really need to rely on the co-operation of shoppers to make the spaces work.

...Id hate to be one of the big supermarkets if they got it wrong and the bad press made it to a paper... frown

...I can see the headline now...

"On call nurse, stranded in snowy Asda Carpark with newborn, unable to respond to emergency due to "mistake" in clamping"

I belive the space issue has been addressed on the forums before, and although I think its a good idea, Im pretty sure fines / clampings will only do bad things for supermarkets frown
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#196505 - 20th Jan 2008 8:55am Re: car park fines..... [Re: StuyMac]
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Registered: 11th Jul 2004
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How are they going to police the Parent and child spaces tho:

  • At what age does the privilage of using the the "parent and child" spaces expire, me and my mum are parent and child.
  • You arrive without a child, park in a baby space, tell the attendant "My (partner) is already inside with our baby, I just went to get petrol."
  • You leave without a child, "I had my child with me when I arrived but I have to go now and my partner has continued shopping inside keeping the child with her".


Disabled space policing is as easy as the blue badge system, but that isnt without its faults.
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#196510 - 20th Jan 2008 9:01am Re: car park fines..... [Re: Waddi]
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In Tesco, they used to have a badge system, but the badges were far too easy to get. Im not sure if they still run it?

I think Asda are just doing this as a marketing trick; if parents think they are going be looked after better and have more preference over normal shoppers, and Asda are seen to be enforcing it, they are hoping that it will attract even more parents to choose them.

What they havent accounted for is the backlash that any fine's issued will bring; and they have just made sure customers like myself stay away, as they are making it clear that they dont give a toss about normal customers, it's all about getting the bigger spenders through the door.

Funny how its parents with kids that get everything, and we all know that Baby stuff and kid's toys are amongst the most profitable things in a supermarket...

The price of Baby stuff is an absolute rip off, I wonder if parents take into account how high the markup is on these items when they are supporting the supermarkets for supposedly "helping" parents with children by offering these spaces...

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#199139 - 23rd Jan 2008 10:46pm Re: car park fines..... [Re: MattLFC]
Alex85
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It may be out of order to park in a disabled bay, but if i caught someone criminally damaging my car with a trolley, disabled or not, he'd be on his arse.

Anyhow, these private parking companies can put as many 'invoices' for payment on my car as they like, they are legally unenforceable and anyone legally minded knows this.

With regards to parking in child and parent spaces, i will park in them anyway, until people start showing respect for other peoples cars in that they are careful when they open their doors etc, then i will also start showing a little respect with where i park.

I'm happy to be called a prick if it saves me having to get my car fixed after some tosser bashes their door into it.

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#199144 - 23rd Jan 2008 10:48pm Re: car park fines..... [Re: ]
Alex85
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Just to add, the disabled badge scheme in itself is a disgrace. Ive got a couple of mates with disabled badges, no less able than you and me.

In a perfect world, perhaps this would work, in the world we live in, it wont make a difference.

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#200151 - 24th Jan 2008 10:10am Re: car park fines..... [Re: ]
Davey_Martin Offline
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Registered: 17th Jul 2007
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Loc: New Ferry
it's a good idea, the fines will also be slapped on ppl parking across two spaces apparently too

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#200201 - 24th Jan 2008 1:51pm Re: car park fines..... [Re: Davey_Martin]
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Registered: 19th Aug 2005
Posts: 5253
Loc: Wirral
Can't go no where these days without feeling safe about not having a fine slaped on your windscreen.

Gd idea to get these gimps off the spots they shouldn't be parking at tho.


Edited by Pomp (24th Jan 2008 1:54pm)

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