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#150549 - 7th Mar 2007 11:36am Legal/Internet advice plzzzzzzzzz
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Registered: 5th May 2005
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If no one knows fine, I'm only asking to save paying #100 to a solicitor who doesnt know either.

I made a sort of piss-take website aout the company I used to work for who sacked me telling customers how to get their order and stuff (semi light hearted semi serious) and I went to edit it today and bravenet who host it have suspended the account and I've heard the boss of the company is steaming mad and has brought the lawyers in (lolz)

I mean come on, the website isnt racist or xenophobic or any of the REALLY serious stuff. It was just a few ironic statements and a few photoshops of the boss swimming in money and crap. What am I looking at here, slander or nothing.

It is the internet where anything can be posted surely, look at the amount of piss-take websites out there and some even having a go at bush and blair, and they are still there. I'm taking the piss out of a shit company and she's gone all legal.

So I just wana know if I push it and set upo another domain she cant do anything right? Thats how I understand it

Mark and Mattyc I'm looking at you two for help here!

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#150552 - 7th Mar 2007 12:55pm Re: Legal/Internet advice plzzzzzzzzz [Re: mp3_85]
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1. Where ever the domain is registered (The person who paid for the domain) those laws apply.
so typically a .co.uk will be UK law.


It depends how the content was displayed,
as in a direct connection to the company and the boss.

I'm taking the piss out of a shit company and she's gone all legal.

She can. Its at most Liable and at the least slander.

You see, she obviously knows who you are because of
your employment records, so getting you to court isnt
a problem.

So I just wana know if I push it and set upo another domain she cant do anything right? Thats how I understand it

If you register the domain address in the UK
UK Laws apply. So yes if she finds the site.

The bush and blair piss takes are registered domains in the
middle of india, where the streets have no name.

Most Server / Hosting companys run a grevience policy
and you have probably breached that at the least.

Just leave it, as it could get messy.
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#150554 - 7th Mar 2007 1:06pm Re: Legal/Internet advice plzzzzzzzzz [Re: Mark]
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If she had contacted you and asked for the info / site
to be removed and you ignored it.

Its not going to look too good.
They probably couldnt contact you and went the server root.
And got it turned off.

Ask bravenet why its been suspended?
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#150559 - 7th Mar 2007 2:45pm Re: Legal/Internet advice plzzzzzzzzz [Re: Mark]
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People get serious penalties for libel and slander, plus defamation of character is another that could get thrown at you in court.

Not a good idea to carry this on, accept the site getting turned off and possibly write a carefully worded apology letter.

If you feel the need to vent about your ex company then do it in such a way that it is your opinion and yours alone, as you are entitled to an opinion, but nowadays this must be clearly stated and still carefully worded to avoid actually accusing or defaming anyone.

Plus if this went to court you'd end up paying all their fees

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#150565 - 7th Mar 2007 4:53pm Re: Legal/Internet advice plzzzzzzzzz [Re: CustomIce]
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Firstly, the domain name doesnt matter Mark, its the content and account holder on the server that matters. It can be accessed via a .DE domain name or even a straight IP address, so it can't be dependent on the domain name owner. I forward my djmattyc.com domain name to MySpace, but I can't be held liable in any way for the content on thier site. So forget the domain idea.

Basically, if the content can be traced to you, then you become liable for the content, which is why so many wiki sites and forums have strong disclaimers protecting themselves, organisations and domain names from legal liability for what their users post.

If the host recieves a complaint regarding the content on a users website, dependent upon how their acceptable usage policy is laid out with regards to network abuse, then access to the content could be suspended.

In most cases, the plaintiff will usually send a strongly worded letter, sometimes with the general feel of a solicitor letter, to force the host to remove the content immediatly, as we hosts dont like to become entangled in user legal battles, no matter how loyal the customer is.

However, until you recieve such a letter through the post, don't read too much into it to be honest, the plaintiff will just be happy the content has gone. I wouldnt start the site up elsewhere however, as if you have gotten away with it this time, the next time you may not be so lucky.

The costs to her company are going to far outwigh any real gain, and its for this reason I highly doubt she will take it any further this time. Just don't put the content back up and if you have heard nothing via the post within the next week or so, then you can count yourself lucky and forget about it.

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#150567 - 7th Mar 2007 5:14pm Re: Legal/Internet advice plzzzzzzzzz [Re: MattLFC]
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that sucks then, i hate losing and I;ve got a right to my opinion

i hate the bitch and she went over my head and complaing to bravenet instead of emailing me. i dunno what im going to do,

cheers everyone

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#150606 - 7th Mar 2007 11:54pm Re: Legal/Internet advice plzzzzzzzzz [Re: mp3_85]
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Let us know when the next site its up lol raftl

That way we could tell you where you went wrong.
And what you may have got away with lol...

Honnestly mate, just let it go, i know its a humble thing,
but she dont know how long its been there and how
many have been looking...

I think you won with the mind games anyway.

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