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#144409 - 7th Dec 2006 7:47pm Norris Designs Evo 9 latest record
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Taken from another site:

We strapped our Datron Microsat timing equipment into Simon Norris' Evo at Santa Pod yesterday.



Unfortunatly a slipping clutch meant that we only got two runs with Datron figures, both of which had far from perfect launches to add to the clutch slip (and a 14mph head wind).

Problems aside, it still smashed the records his previous car held and is officially the quickest car we've ever timed



0-10mph 0.498sec (2nd run)
0-20mph 1.053sec (2nd run)
0-30mph 1.515sec (2nd run)
0-40mph 1.943sec (2nd run)
0-50mph 2.399sec (2nd run)
0-60mph 3.133sec (1st run)
0-70mph 3.532sec (1st run)
0-80mph 3.951sec (1st run)
0-90mph 4.559sec (1st run)
0-100mph 5.078sec (1st run)
0-110mph 5.681sec (1st run)
0-120mph 6.354sec (1st run)
0-130mph 7.335sec (1st run)
0-140mph 8.226sec (1st run)
0-150mph 9.280sec (1st run)
100-150mph 4.202sec
Santa Pod timing slip details (2nd run)
9.777sec @ 154.67mph

The best times we recorded from his old car:
0-30mph 1.37sec
0-60mph 2.69sec
0-100mph 5.63sec
0-150mph 12.02sec
100-150mph 6.28sec

Couple of ramdom super car times
Veyron 0-120 7.3sec
F1 0-100 6.3sec

Once his new clutch is fitted (and we can find an air field that will have us) we'll be going for a 0-200 time and improvements on the ones above

Thats shit the bed quick, without the slipping clutch and the 14mph wind it'll be quicker id say by about half a second. This is proper radio rental and I love it everytime I hear something new about it

http://www.norrisdesigns.com/videos/redline-santa-pod.wmv
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#144413 - 7th Dec 2006 8:17pm Re: Norris Designs Evo 9 latest record [Re: Dazza]
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Thats mega fast.Wud love to see it go,cant wait to hear the 0-200 time,maybe they shud tow a caravan with it, put dont let that monkey who ruined his evo 7 drive it, he shud do it himsilf,after all,it is his car
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#144492 - 8th Dec 2006 10:21pm Re: Norris Designs Evo 9 latest record [Re: scoop]
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Give me a mo to pick my jaw up off the floor...

I'd sell my girlfriend for a spin in that omg



j/k obv.


Edited by jimbo4x4 (8th Dec 2006 10:22pm)

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#144503 - 8th Dec 2006 11:00pm Re: Norris Designs Evo 9 latest record [Re: jimbo4x4]
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Originally Posted By: jimbo4x4
Give me a mo to pick my jaw up off the floor...

I'd sell my girlfriend for a spin in that omg



j/k obv.



raftl obviously you were joking whistle


that is simply, as jimbo said, jaw-dropping!
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#144652 - 10th Dec 2006 7:42pm Re: Norris Designs Evo 9 latest record [Re: BMW Joe]
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Yeah but the possibility of my girlfriend seeing this thread is enough for me to add the bottom bit smack

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#144690 - 11th Dec 2006 7:42am Re: Norris Designs Evo 9 latest record [Re: jimbo4x4]
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Its not as fast as it sounds. The Veyron listed there to compare it with is road legal, this isnt. It does my head in when people compare cars that obviously arnt road legal with supercars like the Veyron etc, and then pretend how impressive they are.

You take a look at some of the cars they have in the US, that also arnt road legal, and they would wipe the floor with that Evo.

On top of this, the figures touted for these cars often arnt fully legit and are never verified by an official body like the FIA or GWR, whereas figures for cars like the Veyron are, and cant be falsified, therefore I wouldnt read too much into it anyway.

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#144720 - 11th Dec 2006 5:54pm Re: Norris Designs Evo 9 latest record [Re: MattLFC]
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True, still amazingly quick though.

......and matty, how much does a veyron cost?
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#144732 - 11th Dec 2006 8:38pm Re: Norris Designs Evo 9 latest record [Re: BMW Joe]
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Originally Posted By: MattyC
Its not as fast as it sounds.


That proves you havnt a clue.
0 - 60 in 3.1 seconds with a headwind and a badly slipping clutch is NOTHING to be taken lightly. This can is capable of doing it in LOW 2 seconds.

Oh, and it is road legal in everyway.
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#144740 - 11th Dec 2006 10:26pm Re: Norris Designs Evo 9 latest record [Re: Dazza]
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Originally Posted By: Dazza
Originally Posted By: MattyC
Its not as fast as it sounds.


That proves you havnt a clue.
0 - 60 in 3.1 seconds with a headwind and a badly slipping clutch is NOTHING to be taken lightly. This can is capable of doing it in LOW 2 seconds.

Oh, and it is road legal in everyway.


his old evo did a 2.6 but was not an official timing device.

i can't wait till the Reyland Escort is setup and see how quick that is, and as the old reyland escort did a 2.89 0-60(maybe quicker) i can pretty much guess the evo has a worthy contender.
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#144753 - 11th Dec 2006 11:40pm Re: Norris Designs Evo 9 latest record [Re: MrPhil]
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what makes u say its not road legal matty?? im pretty sure it is,as was the old one,as is the reyland cossie. cant wait to hear of the reyland cossie myself, owever,why do reyland insist on ripping off the 1997 (repsol) escort WRC livery
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#144754 - 11th Dec 2006 11:45pm Re: Norris Designs Evo 9 latest record [Re: scoop]
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scoop, when his first one was built it was in 1997. he was going to paint it in the exact colors but as the paint fades he binned the idea off.
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#144767 - 12th Dec 2006 8:44am Re: Norris Designs Evo 9 latest record [Re: MrPhil]
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Can anybody direct me to the official and proven world record holder for acceleration evidence of this car then?

Cos until you can, I will not believe it is faster then the Veyron.

The Veyron has proven its worth with the most rigerous testing possible, not just on some drag strip where it could easily be corrupt.

And just incase you forget, the Veyron can do 0-60 in just over 2.4 seconds (official, proven and substantiated by GWR, not just a magazine) and a top speed of 253mph (limited), a theoretical top speed of 257mph with road legal tyres, and possibly upto 270mph with tyres of their choosing...

So no, its not as impressive as it sounds. And again, I won't believe it as there is no evidence whatsoever, except for the teams word (and they wouldnt lie would they) or Santa Pod's (and they wouldnt want some free exposure would they?).

And the reason the Veyron hasnt accelerated faster officially they rekon, is because it can only work at 90% of the engines efficiency in the one place its been pushed so far, because of the land level being so high above sea level and a slight lack of oxygen to burn enough fuel fast enough...

And if this car were road legal would every millionaire not have one? In fact im pretty sure that there would be a lot of rich boy racers banging in orders for them as we speak...

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#144774 - 12th Dec 2006 11:52am Re: Norris Designs Evo 9 latest record [Re: MattLFC]
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Originally Posted By: MattyC
The Veyron has proven its worth with the most rigerous testing possible, not just on some drag strip where it could easily be corrupt.


lol how else do you think they test things then?

The Evo IS a roadcar, the reason millionaires dont have them is because of A) They are 1 off's only a select few can build B) The amount of hours labour, technical knowledge needed and all the parts needed equals alot of stress C) At the end of the day its an Evo, not a Bentley or a lambo D) They dont just build them over night, its a long process.

So you really think everyone's out to sabatarge the Veyron? Why the hell would anyone want to 'change' the results? You dont go through all the above so you can cheat. These car's are not built to outdo the Veyron (Thats never intended) but they do for the fact there quicker/as quick/nearly as quick as a Veyron but they cost atleast seven times LESS. I bet the Veyron handles like shit around a track as its caterd for high speed runs.

Your getting confused, the Veyron is the fastest road car in STANDARD form.

Offical proven record? So until its entered into the Guiness book at records you fail to iknowledge its a fast car/average car.

I must stress again, it IS a road legal car. Iv seen it being driven on public roads.
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#144775 - 12th Dec 2006 1:02pm Re: Norris Designs Evo 9 latest record [Re: Dazza]
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Actually Dazza, you will find the Veyron offers awsome handling, superior to almost all other supercars.

It was designed and built from day one to be a drivers car, to offer world record breaking speed and superb handling at the same time.

Forgetting about how much Jezza raves off its superb handling as well as acceleration, even Gordon Murray himself, probably the biggest sceptic of the entire Veryon development program, conceeded that it was one of the greatest cars ever built and offered not only the fastest drive, but almost defies physics with its phenominal handling.

Originally Posted By: Gordon Murray
"One really good thing, and I simply never expected this, is that it does change direction. It hardly feels its weight. Driving it on a circuit I expected a sack of cement, but you can really throw it at tight chicanes."

Now tell me it handles like shit?

You must be getting confused with the Evo you posted above... That probably handles like shit on a track, because thats built with acceleration in mind (it must be to even attempt to get an Evo as fast as a Veyron), and isnt a track or road car, whereas the Veyron was designed for the road, not a dragstrip (otherwise they wouldnt have spent billions developing the engine, chassis etc).

And the Veyron was offically tested on Volkswagon's Ehra-Lessien test course in Germany, the longest test course in the world, with a 9km straight (a private course, not just a public course like Santa Pod). And, it still had to brake before it could complete its acceleration due to the course not being long enough!

And yes, they would make claims of 0-60 in x seconds and 0-120 in x seconds, but I dont see them getting an official body to back these up... I wonder why that is? And there are many good reasons to falsify claims like this, I means who is going to take any notice if their not claiming to be faster then the official fastest road legal car ever built?

Just like Koenigsegg claimed that the CCX was upto 10mph faster... until they were made to use road legal tyres, and found out that it was more then 3mph slower top speed and a fair bit slower in acceleration too!

Simple rule to consider is, nobody takes any notice of number 2, number 1 is where you have to be.

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#144783 - 12th Dec 2006 1:53pm Re: Norris Designs Evo 9 latest record [Re: MattLFC]
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You must be getting confused with the Evo you posted above... That probably handles like shit on a track, because thats built with acceleration in mind


raftl well here is the editor of Redline mag saying what happened the other day. Evo link the first sentence says it all really.

also did it not win the Totb this year? yes
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