WikiWirral 13yrs online 24/7 365 days a year.
Forum Stats
12331 Members
65 Forums
73263 Topics
989385 Posts
108 posts in the last 24hrs
Max Online: 7831 @ 8th Apr 2013 4:18pm
Who's Online - Click Me
82 registered (alan128, 15 invisible), 1300 Guests and 295 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


(Views 7days)This Weeks Most Read
Bexit Offer for EU Citizens 566
Washing machine 285
Range Rover P38A Air Suspension Help Needed 221
Loving Home Wanted For 3 Cats. 198
Deja Vu, Lightning Strikes Thrice, Groundhog Day 177
Benefit Cap is Unlawful 152
VW t4 fixed side window replacement 129
audi specialised pls 100
Ipad 1 charger 80
Kingsway Academy 28
New General Forums
Mainstream Media- Over and Out
by RUDEBOX
Yesterday at 09:35 PM
Kingsway Academy
by lincle
Yesterday at 10:48 AM
Theresa May and the Holy Grail
by snowhite
25th Jun 2017 6:17pm
Deja Vu, Lightning Strikes Thrice, Groundhog Day
by fish5133
22nd Jun 2017 7:38pm
New Wirral History
Round the Wirral with a movie camera[1934]
by snowhite
16th Jun 2017 2:03pm
Bascule Bridge
by Sufee
6th Jun 2017 9:09pm
Pathe news short - merseytunnel 1934
by oldpm01
5th Jun 2017 1:57pm
1878 Post Office Directory of Cheshire query
by derekdwc
1st Jun 2017 10:41pm
Bakery at 275 Poulton Road 1925 onwards
by JAFitz
30th May 2017 8:59pm
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
wirral from Liverpool big wheel
New Brighton Big Wheel
Topic Replies
Ipad 1 charger
by _Ste_
Yesterday at 07:22 PM
Portraying A Nation-Germany 1919-1933 Tate Liverpool
by paxvobiscum
Yesterday at 07:06 PM
Shotwick - Old And New (Hall and Solar Farm)
by w10694
Yesterday at 06:42 PM
Bexit Offer for EU Citizens
by cools
Yesterday at 11:27 AM
live webcam from africa, a must see
by cools
25th Jun 2017 9:01pm
audi specialised pls
by diggingdeeper
25th Jun 2017 5:41pm
What song are you listening to?
by snowshoes
25th Jun 2017 1:34pm
Sailing volunteers
by dogsbrain
25th Jun 2017 1:11pm
Finsbury Park mosque.
by Beethoven
25th Jun 2017 11:03am
June
M Tu W Th F Sa Su
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30
Recent Posts : What's On ?
Portraying A Nation-Germany 1919-1933 Tate Liverpool
by paxvobiscum
Yesterday at 07:06 PM
Shotwick - Old And New (Hall and Solar Farm)
by w10694
Yesterday at 06:42 PM
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#129028 - 21st Jul 2006 10:18pm Need help please with the dash???
spinking Offline
Forum Veteran

Registered: 11th May 2004
Posts: 5093
Loc: Happy Home
While i was sitting in the 4i sorting out the bucket seats i was doing the sums for the rollcage the fella who is making me it needs to know this week.

To put a cage in a 4i you need to run it through the dashboard (behind the air vents at each end) so there will be some cutting to be done.

As i want the car motd because its going to be a track/sprint and sunday toy i would like to take the dash out what is the laws on this if i have speedo petrol temp gauges fitted into some sort of alloy dash would the car still go through a mot plus taking out the dash would loose a little weight.

Cheers peps.
_________________________
drifting drifting and yet more skidding

Top
Google Ads
#129029 - 21st Jul 2006 10:47pm Re: Need help please with the dash???
scoop Offline
Wiki Addict

Registered: 18th Nov 2004
Posts: 7238
Loc: Leuchars
u cud take the dashboard out and mount the clockset on some sort of metal bar
_________________________

Top
#129030 - 21st Jul 2006 10:57pm Re: Need help please with the dash???
spinking Offline
Forum Veteran

Registered: 11th May 2004
Posts: 5093
Loc: Happy Home
Quote:
Originally posted by scoop2004:
u cud take the dashboard out and mount the clockset on some sort of metal bar
Would look alittle tacky.

Once the dash is taken out it leaves alot of wires/ metal and also the steering is exposed.
_________________________
drifting drifting and yet more skidding

Top
#129031 - 21st Jul 2006 11:11pm Re: Need help please with the dash???
scoop Offline
Wiki Addict

Registered: 18th Nov 2004
Posts: 7238
Loc: Leuchars
im confused.Do u want a dash or not?

Making an ally dash wud be a lot of hassle,cost money and weigh more than the standard thin plastic dash.

All u need to do is fix some metal sections in and bend them to wear the clock screws are located and screw the clocks to it.and cover all wires in looming tape. Then u have the problem of heater vents/controls and stereo.

The interior will be unsightly if u remove the dash but its gonna be a stripped out racer so who cares?

or just cut the sections out for the A pillar cage sections and leave the rest as is?

If this isnt what ur trying to say ur doing then please correct me
_________________________

Top
#129032 - 22nd Jul 2006 1:34am Re: Need help please with the dash???
DavidB Offline
Wiki Guide

Registered: 7th Dec 2003
Posts: 5608
Loc: Bebington, Wirral
You need a speedo for MOT, that's it. Mileage doesn't even need to be there, or accurate.

Here's a nice picture of a rollcage through air-vents:

_________________________
"C20 LET bang"

Top
#129033 - 22nd Jul 2006 1:44am Re: Need help please with the dash???
Mark Online   Reading


Wiki Master

Registered: 9th Nov 2003
Posts: 21062
Loc: Wirral
Remember Scooby's escort.

That was the bare bones.

With a speedo that looked like a clock?

Leave the speedo in,
and put the others in a plastic back.
Put it on the back seat,
then if he say's where is the oil or temp
gauge you can say its on the back seat lol...

I think post has it what sounds about right.
_________________________
My Avatar images are all from the Wirral Gallery.Click Me
Wow Wirral History is coming along Great! Wirral History

we get +200 new members a month now smile

Top
#129034 - 22nd Jul 2006 7:54am Re: Need help please with the dash???
MrPhil Offline
Forum Master

Registered: 14th Apr 2006
Posts: 2367
Loc: Prenton
if all components are in the plate ie, speed, rev counter, petrol, etc, then this won't be a problem for the mot also the hazard lights

on passion ford a lad has been converting a 1.1 fiesta to a track car and has done what you are thinking. you could mount them like the twin engined golf in ellesmere port on the roll cage. passion ford fiesta
_________________________

Top
#129035 - 24th Jul 2006 1:04am Re: Need help please with the dash???
Scooby Offline
Forum Veteran

Registered: 9th Nov 2003
Posts: 5327
Loc: Birkenhead, Wirral.
MOT Requirements :

  • Speedo (Not sure as its NOT checked on the MOT but mileage is recorded on a MOT Test)
  • Indercator warning lamps (the little flashing lamp to let you know the indercators are on)
  • Hi-Beam warning lamp (As Above)
  • Rear fog lamp warning lamp)


The steering can be fully exposed as can the wiring and heaters etc.....

Personaly i would leave the dash in place and just chop out the end sections to allow the roll cage to fit correctly.

Top
#129036 - 24th Jul 2006 1:05am Re: Need help please with the dash???
spinking Offline
Forum Veteran

Registered: 11th May 2004
Posts: 5093
Loc: Happy Home
Cheers matey thats what i want to do couldnt get my brain to work to say what it looked like.

Do you think that would be ok for a mot???

Also cheers scooby sort of want the room BUT dont want to go cutting up the dash.

I can get ok money for my dash thats why i dont want to go chopping it.

They crack alot and un cracked ones are sort after.(dashboards)
_________________________
drifting drifting and yet more skidding

Top
#129037 - 24th Jul 2006 9:00pm Re: Need help please with the dash???
MrPhil Offline
Forum Master

Registered: 14th Apr 2006
Posts: 2367
Loc: Prenton
as scoop said as long as the wires are insulated so they don't catch fire, catch moving parts, it should be ok,

what about mounting just the original clocks in a metal frame so that the wiring is easier to sort out think would save a few pennies aswell
_________________________

Top
#129038 - 25th Jul 2006 1:06am Re: Need help please with the dash???
Dazza Offline
Forum Master

Registered: 10th Nov 2003
Posts: 2899
Loc: Birkenhead
Ally dash wouldnt cost much and will weight less than a standard one providing you keep to the basic needs.

Maybe cut the dash in half (Keep the drivers side) iv seen this done on a few cars and it saves having to rewire/add extra switchs and things, also means you can bin the heatermatrix - You've gutted the interior so I doubt your bothered about 'looks' too much tease
_________________________
My website: www.TeamFord.co.uk

Top
#129039 - 25th Jul 2006 1:10am Re: Need help please with the dash???
MrPhil Offline
Forum Master

Registered: 14th Apr 2006
Posts: 2367
Loc: Prenton
as said above dazza i think he wants to sell the dash as it is good nick or somethin
_________________________

Top
#129040 - 25th Jul 2006 1:13am Re: Need help please with the dash???
Dazza Offline
Forum Master

Registered: 10th Nov 2003
Posts: 2899
Loc: Birkenhead
Ahhh I speed read it and didnt see that.

In that case make half a dash up from ally and add the vitals only, wont be hard if your handy with electrics since the wiring is already there. Are 4i dashs different to XR's? I didnt think it would be worth anything
_________________________
My website: www.TeamFord.co.uk

Top
#129041 - 25th Jul 2006 8:10am Re: Need help please with the dash???
spinking Offline
Forum Veteran

Registered: 11th May 2004
Posts: 5093
Loc: Happy Home
Its almost the same as i 3 door cosworth (i think) They are prone to cracking so uncracked ones sell for about 60 i know its not big money.

Alloys is the one i am going for PLUS i have alot od gauges to go in the car see pic below.

_________________________
drifting drifting and yet more skidding

Top
#129042 - 25th Jul 2006 6:03pm Re: Need help please with the dash???
MrPhil Offline
Forum Master

Registered: 14th Apr 2006
Posts: 2367
Loc: Prenton
why have a 11k rpm on a shonky old 4i think
_________________________

Top

Moderator:  StuyMac 
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Portraying A Nation-Germany 1919-1933 Tate Liverpool
by paxvobiscum
Yesterday at 07:06 PM
audi specialised pls
by Little_B
25th Jun 2017 5:02pm
Bexit Offer for EU Citizens
by granny
23rd Jun 2017 9:38am
Benefit Cap is Unlawful
by RUDEBOX
22nd Jun 2017 7:37pm
VW t4 fixed side window replacement
by Mike72
22nd Jun 2017 8:00am
For Sale & Free
Ipad 1 charger
by madrob
25th Jun 2017 2:34pm
Washing machine
by GingerTom
20th Jun 2017 9:05pm
22" full 1080p hd and freeview tv
by monsterz4
20th Jun 2017 8:50pm
Apple TV box the 1gen
by monsterz4
20th Jun 2017 8:48pm
42 lf smart tv
by stumpyduck
20th Jun 2017 8:15pm
Featured Member
Registered: 7th Dec 2003
Posts: 5608
Newest Members
Charlotte, OwenChristian, DaveAitch, Fairz87, mikerobbo84
12331 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
New Wirral Info
Portraying A Nation-Germany 1919-1933 Tate Liverpool
by paxvobiscum
Yesterday at 07:06 PM
Shotwick - Old And New (Hall and Solar Farm)
by diggingdeeper
15th Jun 2017 10:19pm
Sefton Park
by diggingdeeper
15th Jun 2017 10:02pm
Property Law
by lau2908
14th Jun 2017 8:04pm
van driver needed
by futurepast
14th Jun 2017 7:34pm
News : New Topics
Bexit Offer for EU Citizens
by granny
23rd Jun 2017 9:38am
Benefit Cap is Unlawful
by RUDEBOX
22nd Jun 2017 7:37pm
Finsbury Park mosque.
by Beethoven
19th Jun 2017 11:42am
Grenfell Tower - Notting Hill
by diggingdeeper
14th Jun 2017 5:13am
Manchester airport
by Dilly
9th Jun 2017 6:01pm
New Enthusiast Forums
audi specialised pls
by Little_B
25th Jun 2017 5:02pm
VW t4 fixed side window replacement
by Mike72
22nd Jun 2017 8:00am
Range Rover P38A Air Suspension Help Needed
by Martin1943
20th Jun 2017 8:06pm
Loving Home Wanted For 3 Cats.
by DavidC
20th Jun 2017 8:32am
Loving Home Wanted For 3 Cats.
by DavidC
18th Jun 2017 6:02pm
(Views 24hrs)Trending Newest Topics
Kingsway Academy 31
Mainstream Media- Over and Out 17
Portraying A Nation-Germany 1919-1933 Tate Liverpool 10
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Tue 4:45am
Sunset Tue 9:45pm
Local Time Tue 3:42am
WikiWirral Can . . . .
Advertising Click me
To Advertise with
Wikiwirral Click Me