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Re: Green bins to be collected every 3 weeks.
[Re: mikeeb]
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19th Dec 2020 1:56pm
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What are the alternatives? The Government continues to reduce Council funds, even stopping payments of money they promised the Councils. They always collect both green and grey bins on the same day, just not in the same area at the moment, its like having two sets of crews. What the Councils need to do is to take services back into public service again, whilst the privatisation rules have been relaxed the Government ensure there are a lot of hurdles to do this. Never forget the Government has:- Borrowed more money than ever before Spent more money than ever before But is reducing spending on the majority of the population. We are being robbed of our own money.
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Re: Green bins to be collected every 3 weeks.
[Re: Greenwood]
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20th Dec 2020 12:41am
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If they did decide to reduce bin collections - and that's not definite, it's just one of the things up for discussion - it'd make more sense to empty the grey bins every three weeks and green every fortnight; the grey bins would be less of a health hazard in warm weather. They have looked at this before, the concept is also to encourage more recycling by limiting Green bin availability compared to Grey bin availability. There are a number of councils that have been running three weekly for some time now, a small number reverted to two weekly. What doesn't help is that they think in terms of weight, but to the consumer the limitation is volume. I spent over an hour trying to get an official to understand the different aspect and I still don't think it they got it. One thing I do against the guidelines is crush plastic bottles, they take up far too much space. In fact I crush everything that goes in the grey bin. Note that the high tax paid on general waste (our Green bins) goes to the Government which is almost as perverse as window tax. Currently it is about £94 a tonne.
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Re: Green bins to be collected every 3 weeks.
[Re: Dougiem]
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20th Dec 2020 12:14pm
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They always collect both green and grey bins on the same day, just not in the same area at the moment, its like having two sets of crews. They will need a bigger crew when the green and grey bins are collected on the same week in the same area, and this will push a lot of bin men to part time. If they did decide to reduce bin collections - and that's not definite, it's just one of the things up for discussion - it'd make more sense to empty the grey bins every three weeks and green every fortnight; the grey bins would be less of a health hazard in warm weather. The council are promoting recycling more, so emptying the grey bin every 3 weeks will just mean more recyclables end up in the green bin when the grey bin is full. It's the usual from the council , put council tax up and reduce services. I live very close to a lane that's regularly used for fly tipping so that will just get worse. Fly tipping is usually done by illegal house and garden clearances, not bins overflowing.
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Re: Green bins to be collected every 3 weeks.
[Re: mikeeb]
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20th Dec 2020 3:44pm
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They always collect both green and grey bins on the same day, just not in the same area at the moment, its like having two sets of crews. They will need a bigger crew when the green and grey bins are collected on the same week in the same area, and this will push a lot of bin men to part time. No, they will be able to do it with less crews. It doesn't matter whether the grey and green is the same area or not, we could have always have our green and grey bins collected on the same day, it would take exactly the same number of crews.
We don't do charity in Germany, We pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
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Re: Green bins to be collected every 3 weeks.
[Re: Dougiem]
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20th Dec 2020 3:54pm
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It's the usual from the council , put council tax up and reduce services. Its the usual from the Government, they control the Councils purse strings and let the Councils take the blame. The Government has continuously eroded the Council's autonomy mainly by controlling their finances, if you don't do what the Government wants then the money further dries up or is taken off you. The Councils are now highly dependent on Government grants which are discretionary and as such much of their income is ring-fenced. The Government don't want the blame for anything while they are robbing the majority of the population.
We don't do charity in Germany, We pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
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Re: Green bins to be collected every 3 weeks.
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23rd Dec 2020 7:42am
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They won't change the bin collections, there'd be rats on every street corner. They won;t close Europa , because it would be missed too much by the locals or the people from Liverpool who come across to use it. They will increase Parking Charges as usually happens when these things are put out for public consultation.
Interestingly, how many people and how are they informed about public consultations ? The Council have my email address but I never get notifications from them. It's all very cleverly controlled for the already hopeful result of inflicting more pain on those who work and struggle from day to day , the same as many others struggle. We hear about peopIe unable to feed their children. Well, I can remember when there was a choice between travelling to work or eating. It's nothing new, but we didn't cry all the time. So I bet any money, they again will punish those who struggle between earning a living and balancing the books, by increasing their council tax, and parking fees. On the flip side... council housing, free rent, benefits, free swims and can stay in bed all day if needed !
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Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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Re: Green bins to be collected every 3 weeks.
[Re: mikeeb]
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23rd Dec 2020 8:25pm
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I don't understand how they could save money on bin collections, Biffa is the contractor, under the tendering process they would have put a bid in for the refuse and street cleansing contracts, I imagine this bid was accepted to cover a set period of time, the price tendered would cover that period of time, so for the council to save money they would have to take the money back from Biffa, they most probably have clauses written in, but both Biffa and the taxpayer would be shafted, maybe it's a too simplistic way to look at it. 
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