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Re: Award for Corbyn ??? [Re: granny] #1080349
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I see Corbyn has been kicked out the Tory Party. Hopefully this will the final downfall of the Blairites.


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Re: Award for Corbyn ??? [Re: granny] #1080351
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I thought you were a Corbyn backer. What changed?

Re: Award for Corbyn ??? [Re: mikeeb] #1080370
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Originally Posted by mikeeb
I thought you were a Corbyn backer. What changed?


Read again, carefully!


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Re: Award for Corbyn ??? [Re: granny] #1080373
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Re: Award for Corbyn ??? [Re: mikeeb] #1080375
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Originally Posted by mikeeb
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Mike, here's my view on DD being cryptic, he views this Labour leadership/party being no different to the Tory Party, hence Corbyn being removed from the Tory Party, he also views Blair's Labour being the same as Tories, therefore the downfall of those remaining Blairites.


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Re: Award for Corbyn ??? [Re: granny] #1080376
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Very cryptic indeed.
Thanks, Bert. wink

Re: Award for Corbyn ??? [Re: granny] #1080378
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Here you can see Harold Wilson in 1972 being a left-liberal but Tony Blair and his ilk are grouped together with Thatcher in the right-authoritarian corner.

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I'll give Corbyn one commendation.. he sided with the plight of the Palestinians.

I doubt many will be interested in this film, (approx 55mins long) but, it gives the History of the Palestinian Christians , now known as 'Israeli Arabs ' ; and their struggle since 1948 when their land was initially taken from them.
Oh how the world has been silent to the truth .....

40 “I tell you,” he replied, “if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out.”
41 As he approached Jerusalem and saw the city, he wept over it

Unfortunately , I can't post the video, but it can be accessed from the link under THE STONES CRY OUT . Click where it says ''now viewable on Vimeo. It's quite emotional in parts , and desperately sad.

https://peacemakers.ngo/blog/

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Re: Award for Corbyn ??? [Re: granny] #1080783
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Originally Posted by granny
I'll give Corbyn one commendation.. he sided with the plight of the Palestinians.


Which became his downfall, the Zionists then had it in for him and their tendrils started sneaking out to engulf him

Then the other boot was stuck in when it was declared that anti-zionism was anti-semitic and everybody fell in line.


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It seems fairly obvious who the ring leader was , after there had been a fall out.


I did think you might have watched this film , DD. Foregone conclusion on here, that nobody else would want to see the truth as it happened.


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Re: Award for Corbyn ??? [Re: granny] #1080793
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The film shows that religion creates dangerous division which cost lives and well being.

The film only concentrates on the History post WW2 and ignores the period from WW1. It also appears to brush over the impact of other countries.

I really don't understand how Israel has any support for its continued military action against Palestinians and I am yet to meet a Jew that doesn't condemn the way Palestinians are treated. However I have met many "Christians" that support Israel.

Its a holy mess - literally.


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It was initially nothing to do with religion . Purely land grabbing ( and still is) . Over 400 palestinian villages and small towns were cleared out , many recodred as 'atrocities' or 'massacres' .
The Palestinian Christians and the Muslims lived in harmony .
This is a relatively recent documentary, and interviews those who are first hand witnesses after 1948. Many who were transported as refugees, or fled to become refugees or were never allowed to return after the Infatadas , and many who lived through the two world wars, probably are no longer alive or are scattered between Lebanon, Syria and Jordan. Others still in camps and the land that belonged to their families for generation on generation has been taken , buried and built on , or produce from the olive groves and figs now belong to Israel.
I know a couple of Jewish friends who won;t give the time of day to any Palestinian , but had those Palestinians , Chrisitian or Muslim (now referred to as ISraeli Arabs) been treated differently from the onset, I dare say things would have been very different. Occupation in their own land and more recently road blockages to prevent them traveliing from Bethlehem to Jerusalem without a military pass, is inhumane.
I also know of another British Jew who brags about his relations belonging to Irgun and killing the British... !! The same person condemns terrorism . Work that one out . I suppose it depends on where the terrorism happens.

As time passes, things become more inflamed, but as one Church official said in the documentary , there cannot be peace for one without peace for the other. As another witness said, the Christians who are left will leave eventually if things don;t change, as they have no life . Then it will probably become a religious war if there's ony the Palestinian Muslims left.

I wish Crobyn had not got back into the party. He could have been more use away from it, along with your pal.. what's his name. (?) Actually, we could hope, but no one listens . The powers that be command silence or obstruction.
Personally I have no beef with any Jewish person, they can't be held responsible and many do object to Israeli policies, but they too are kept silent.

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Originally Posted by granny
It was initially nothing to do with religion . Purely land grabbing ( and still is) .


And not genocide?


The further you are down the pay scale, the more 'essential' you are when the s--- hits the fan... Sue Farbysmith 2020

Insults are engendered from vulgar minds, like toadstools from a dunghill - Charles Caleb Colton

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