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Re: When Damascus Falls ! [Re: granny] #1080313
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He said at the very beginning of the report " this is Ahmed refugee camp in North West Syria, it's one of the largest " . As said 600 doctors for 4 million people , doctors were either taken hostage along with hospital equipment from taken from Syrian hopsitals to be put in underground hospitals, or they fled when the battle was ongoing in Raqqa in 2015 to Europe. The place where heads were stuck on spikes around the main roundabout of the town.

The under ground hospitals house the military equipment and stores for the Islamist war, and every time Assad/ Russia has bombed a hospital, it is always an underground hospital for the terrorists. That's never reported either. Probably a good enough reason why people are not getting tested out there in the camps or towns and villages. Frightened of being coersed into something they are scared of, or having to pay money they don;t have for treatment, which then becomes a blackmail/ controlling situation.

Exactly the reason that friend of mine in Syria would not go to the hospitals or the doctors when his 75 yr old mother was ill. The national Hospitals were taken over by ISIS or blown up by them via underground tunnels, and replaced by another underground hospital. Many doctors performing in those hospitals are not on the National Health Database and are not known .

Idlib province has more dislpaced because they are displaced due to being controlled by Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), a militant group with links to al-Qaida, since January 2019.

When East Ghouta and Daraa among other places, were liberated by Assad's Army, all those terrorists and affiliated groups mentioned above were transported to Idlib along with their families . Idlib is a hot bed of terroism, any reports coming out of Idlib are more than certainly given by those who are being scutinised by the controlling groups or even members of such groups. They are not free people in the towns. Those in the camps in Idlib, including populations from the Christian villages who escaped after their villages had been burned and women held hostage and raped , and are now being watched over by Erdogan's mighty warriors.

The building of new houses is mighty odd, as the land has not been recalimed by Assad yet, so who is building the houses and who is financing the houses, and who will be living in the houses... ??? What will happen to the displaced population in such places ? They won't be getting the houses, it will be ISIL and associates or an extention to Turkeys border . A bit like Golan and Israel.

Any provisions supplied by UNICEF, or any other organisation is despatched via one road in and one road out through Turkey, and confiscated along route by the terrorists. Always have been , and the White Helmets were another band of bad brothers some who got paid via the underground hospitals. No money, medicines or medical equipement allowed into Syria for the National general hospitals , that's the sanctions US have placed on the ordinary populations.

Palestinans have lived in Syria for years , since the 1960s whe they were rushed out of Israel and never allowed back. Just as many in Jordan.


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Re: When Damascus Falls ! [Re: granny] #1080316
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Forgot to point out that out of 4 million refugees, only about 10% are in camps. Most refugees live in host communities in urban and rural settings outside of the UN-run camp system and UNHCR do not provide in Turkey. .


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Actually you are correct, the BBC did get it wrong, they are using the term "refugees" for Syrians in Syria when they mean displaced persons. This totally confuses any reference to statistics.

As I previously stated, only around 50% of the 4 million mentioned are displaced people, the rest are regular residents.

UN do assist with the host communities within Syria, not just the camps, they initiated the repair and new build programs about three(?) years ago rather than continually expanding temporary (eg tent) accommodation. This benefits the residents as well as the displaced persons and refugees.


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Re: When Damascus Falls ! [Re: granny] #1080325
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Yes, the UN assisted in northern Syria, North West and North East but not the rest of it. As we know northern Syria is Idlib Province and Allepo Province . They are not assisting the general population, i.e. those outside the Northern territories and as from July the cross border aid stopped so nothing to the Northern region either. (unless a contract has been renewed.)

Those who live in provinces Assad has liberated don;t get anything.
That's what I'm reading from English and Europeans who live in Syria. They haven't even got food now, down to the last crumbs because what there is to buy they can;t afford as prices have rocketed . No money, no food, no petrol, no gas .. it's really dire, and the world closes its eyes.

They'll open them pretty sharply when there's another influx of people trying to get to Europe... including the Armenians who are also being displaced now.

The only building I have heard of was infrastructure and homes built by the Russians, in the Aleppo communities . The West are stupid really, as they won't want Russia so close to the EU, but all they've done is given the biggest opportunity for Russia to take command and control . Whether they will or not, remains to be seen.

I see today a whole load of Albanians have been reinstated from Syria to their home country. So more terror on the loose eventually.

I just wonder what we would do here, if Arrowe Park Hopsital, Clatterbridge , the Royal, etc. were all hijacked and taken over at the same time. Any amount of visitors can enter without security checks (under normal conditions) Would we visit a hospital run by terroists, and how would the authorities actually get rid of them after they'd ambushed holding a hospital full of patients , doctors and nurses as hostages.?


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Re: When Damascus Falls ! [Re: granny] #1080326
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Originally Posted by granny
I just wonder what we would do here, if Arrowe Park Hopsital, Clatterbridge , the Royal, etc. were all hijacked and taken over at the same time. Any amount of visitors can enter without security checks (under normal conditions) Would we visit a hospital run by terroists, and how would the authorities actually get rid of them after they'd ambushed holding a hospital full of patients , doctors and nurses as hostages.?


Well that would fall right in line with Boris's managed decline of the North.

The Manchester Nightingale Hospital is to re-open but .....

No COVID patients are allowed to use it (it is purely a recuperation hospital)

All COVID patients have to remain at the general hospitals ensuring that other services at those hospitals have to be cut back.

Any hospital that has the audacity to send a patient to the Nightingale hospital has also got to send staff to look after that patient.

These rules do not apply to other Nightingale hospitals.


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Re: When Damascus Falls ! [Re: granny] #1080340
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Here we go .. now brought to the streets of Europe. No police and silence from the French authorities. Macron has got a problem that will spill over to the rest of Europe, and us included in the not too distant future. We need to be taking note instead of thinking it's too far away to bother us. Well it isn;t,


Lack of any condemnation of Turkey's actions by EU , or US.

https://twitter.com/ZartonkMedia/status/1321567512522158080


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