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Genealogical Research - Macmillan #1080028
10th Oct 2020 10:57am
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I am trying to get information on my family roots within the Wirral.
My Grandfather Alexander MacNicol Macmillan was married to Louise Yvonne (nee DeVille) and lived on the Wirral during the inter War years. I believe my Grandfather was at some time a Purser on the P&O Orient Line but in 1930 he went blind and eventually ended up in St Dunstans. In 1939 my Grand mother was living at 6 Seaview Avenue Wallasey and latterly at 9 Malpas Road Wallasey. My father was Alexander Charles Macmillan who falsified his age and joined the Army in 1935 transferring to the RAF in 1942. All I know about my family's life on the Wirral is all hearsay and I would be most grateful if anyone on this Forum could add anything to my quest for information.
Thanks in advance
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Re: Genealogical Research - Macmillan [Re: Alex_Macmillan] #1080029
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This is Alexander's Christening, it may suggest they lived in or near New Ferry prior to Wallasey.

Name:
Alexander Charles MacMillan
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
25 Nov 1917
Event Place:
New Ferry, Cheshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
New Ferry, Cheshire, England
Gender:
Male
Father's Name:
Alexander MacMillan
Mother's Name:
Louisa


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Re: Genealogical Research - Macmillan [Re: Alex_Macmillan] #1080030
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Marriage,

DEVILLE Louise Yvonne, MACMILLAN Alexander Macnicol, 1916 Wirral, Civil Marriage or Registrar Attended Wirral.

If you're not aware, Registrar Attended means, other than Church Of England.


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Re: Genealogical Research - Macmillan [Re: Alex_Macmillan] #1080032
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Name: Alexander Charles Macmillan
Death Age: 69
Birth Date: 2 Oct 1917
Registration Date: Nov 1986
Registration District: Worcester
Inferred County: Hereford and Worcester
Volume: 29
Page: 808

This may seem out of context, or could be somebody else, but there is the Royal National College For The Blind in Hereford.
Address given on Probate record is in Worcester.

Last edited by Norton; 10th Oct 2020 2:23pm. Reason: Added and corrected.
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The 1938 directory which was likely compiled late 1937 has Wm Parkinson, 6 Sea View Avenue, Wallasey.

There was a Louisa Macmillan at 39 Digg Lane, Moreton, Wirral, unfortunately there's no way of knowing from the directory exactly who this lady is.


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Re: Genealogical Research - Macmillan [Re: Norton] #1080053
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Thankyou Norton, that was my father.

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Thankyou Bertieone for the info. The Seaview address was gleaned from the 1939 Register where my Grandmother was living with her 2 daughters Yvonne and Mignon. I believe that my Grandfather was Church of Scotland, having been born in Alexandria, Dunbartonshire, which may account for the "Registrar attended". The Malpas Road address was gleaned from my father's RAF Records in 1942.

Re: Genealogical Research - Macmillan [Re: Alex_Macmillan] #1080059
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Further to the above, my father - Alexander Charles Macmillan (deceased)- was born on the Wirral on 02 Oct 1917 I am trying to find out where my father went to school. Scuttlebutt has it that the School was called "The Tinterne School" but I can find no mention of it on the Web. Was there such a school?

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Scuttlebutt?

Never heard of a Tinterne School.


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Re: Genealogical Research - Macmillan [Re: Alex_Macmillan] #1080068
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Thanks again Bertie. That has put to rest another incorrect family rumour. When my father enlisted in the Army on 27 April 1935, he gave his date of birth as 8 April 1917, place of birth - Balloch, Alexandria (his father's place of birth), place of education - Intern House School Balloch (with a Scottish School Leaving Certificate) and his occupation, Motor Driver - none of which was true as he was born and bred on the Wirral! He did however go on to join the RAF in 1941 becoming a pilot flying Mustangs. He was shot down on 7 July 1943 over German Occupied Holland - some 4 months after I was born - but survived, was imprisoned in Stalag Luft III, survived the "Long March" from Poland into Germany and on repatriation remained in the RAF until 1960. He died in 1987 but never talked about his early life on the Wirral or his wartime experiences. It is to my eternal regret that I am only just piecing together his History and wish that I had done so before he died.
Do you know of any organisation in the Liverpool area that I could contact with regard to my Grandfather's maritime career. Considering that he married in 1916, there must surely some record of his being in the Merchant Navy during the Great War and subsequently until his blindness in 1930. On his death on 10 Dec 1968 he was described as a retired Chief Steward.

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Re: Genealogical Research - Macmillan [Re: Alex_Macmillan] #1080070
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Unfortunately, for the period I am researching, it would appear that there is nothing about my Grandfather online. As I live in the north of Scotland, going to Greenwich is a non-starter. But again good info and thanks
Alex

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For what it's worth and if it's any help i've been looking into the schools and HERE is a list of Wirral schools dating back to 1862 with records.

Could it possibly be that the school name you're looking for, of which nobody has a clue about, is written wrong or difficult to read or is it in block capitals? I only say this as when we were looking into my family tree some place names were REALLY hard to read as they were written in victorian cursive so needed a few looks over and guesses before we could piece together what they said. Hopefully the list of schools in the above link helps a little.

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There were a lot of private schools which often were someones home with a couple of pupils, these were usually named after the proprietor or sometimes after the name of the building. I don't think there were any formal registers of such schools, I'd guess in Birkenhead alone there were upward of thirty such schools.

In the back of my mind there are two things vaguely familiar about Tinterne, one is a camp in Wales (or somewhere else) for schoolkids, the other is some link to a national school, perhaps a nick-name or something. Could well be false memories and I've found absolutely nothing to collaborate either thought.

The name/word is similar to intern/internship and I again remember something about some schools having some sort of indenture which I guess could be called an internship.


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Re: Genealogical Research - Macmillan [Re: Alex_Macmillan] #1080192
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Thanks again to all for their contributions. In speaking with another family member, it could be that the school was "Tintern House"

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