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Originally Posted by MisterSmiff
Calling something the Government has had months to do (and I am getting tired of repeating this point) is not "magic".


Its much worse than that, we had reserves of money and equipment for flu epidemics/pandemics and procedures in place, these have systematically been removed.


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Oh the PPI situation is definitely a cause of discontent at my place. Our Clinical Facilitators set aside several hours a week to Fit Test as many Staff as possible for the current array of FFP3 masks that we have. This selection is changing constantly because the supply chain can't seem to secure a constant supply of any particular mask, and we need to re-test people who have previously passed on a mask that has run out. We're constantly re-doing things and retreading old ground when a solid procurement and stockpile plan from NHS England / Public Health England should have mitigated the need for most of this.

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Think we’ll be going into another lockdown soon ..

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From midnight tonight, different households in the Liverpool City Region will not be allowed to mingle unless part of a "support bubble", and pubs and restaurants will have a 10pm-5am curfew imposed. Public transport will once again be restricted to essential travel only. Rumour has it that a nationwide lockdown could follow next week.

EDIT: Some sources say "midnight tonight", but the BBC reports "next Tuesday": https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-54194804

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Originally Posted by BBC
Late night operating hours will be restricted, with leisure and entertainment venues including restaurants, pubs, and cinemas, required to close between 22:00 BST to 05:00.

Does this mean they can open again at 06:00?

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Late night operating hours will be restricted, with leisure and entertainment venues including restaurants, pubs, and cinemas, required to close between 22:00 BST to 05:00.

Does this mean they can open again at 06:00?


I think this will only really affect Anna's Bar on Argyle Street, which often seems to have extremely refreshed patrons still outside it around that time

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There was a time when you sat and watched to news, it was stuffed down your throat, "Today another 1,000 people have the virus bringing the total to 20,000 21,000 etc etc and also how many people were dead" These days its 1,000 people have it since yesterday, its not giving us a total figure, out of the 300,000 back in May/June how many still have it/recovered/died ?
Its all Cry wolf, most people are sticking to the guidelines and even the ones who aren't are still won't catch it, more people are dying of flu each day,

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Flu is seasonal though, COVID is still quite new, and we'll soon have to deal with both. Please don't pooh-pooh the efforts of everyone trying to get on top of this by making trivial comparisons like that.

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Originally Posted by keef666
There was a time when you sat and watched to news, it was stuffed down your throat, "Today another 1,000 people have the virus bringing the total to 20,000 21,000 etc etc and also how many people were dead" These days its 1,000 people have it since yesterday, its not giving us a total figure, out of the 300,000 back in May/June how many still have it/recovered/died ?
Its all Cry wolf, most people are sticking to the guidelines and even the ones who aren't are still won't catch it, more people are dying of flu each day,


Its far from cry wolf, we have already seen a 5,000 plus reduction in official figures due to the way the figures have been manipulated, I don't know where you make your observations, but I can tell you what I have seen the results are there are people that follow the rules and there are those that don't, those that don't are becoming more obvious and blatant by the day and that will carry on until action is taken to enforce some sort of control, it is apparent that asking for responsibility and goodwill doesn't work, there is also a growing belief certainly among the young that covid is a hoax designed to gain control of the masses and prevent them from enjoying themselves, perhaps if the cast of TOWIE made a broadcast stating it is real they would all believe it.

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You only have to go in the majority of supermarkets to find out less than 50% of people are following the guidelines.


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Matt Hancock on defending the lack of testing, " the way I see it as an economist if you make something free it will be abused" silly me I thought we paid for it through taxes and national insurance, perhaps instead of watching the costing he should concentrate on his own job as"health secretary" one that he has failed in so miserably.

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Now we know humans can transmit it to wild animals, I wonder if it can go one step further to domesticated animals ?


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COVID-19 CASES IN ANIMALS. Since April 4, the US Department of Agriculture has confirmed cases of the virus causing COVID-19 in 46 animals, including captive wild animals such as tigers, lions and mink.
In almost all cases, the animals were exposed to humans who had probable or confirmed COVID-19.
In April, tigers and lions at Bronx Zoo were found to have the illness from an asymptomatic keeper, and a number of cases of transmission to mink, many of whom died from the disease, were recorded on fur farms in Utah in August.
This followed warnings from the Netherlands where a wave of infections in mink fur farms is reportedly leading to the early implementation of mink fur farm closures in the country.
These cases highlight the risks of keeping wild animals in captivity and in close contact with humans.


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Yes, both domestic cats and dogs. This was known about before it hit our shores. Unlike humans, CV rarely kills animals.


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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
You only have to go in the majority of supermarkets to find out less than 50% of people are following the guidelines.


Go to a school playground at pickup time and you will see it's closer to more than 80% not following guidelines. All the gaggles and cliques acting like nothing has changed. And people then wonder why we are going into a local semi-lockdown again.

I'm guessing that's why the recent parentmail to all schools saying you must wear a mask now.

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