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Re: Our Earth [Re: Fidelio] #1079614
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Originally Posted by Fidelio
Was all that off the top of your head D.D? It might be nice to give credit to your sources once in a while.


Ok, I'll credit myself then as you insist.

There is very little factual content there and what there is is pretty basic (mostly very basic), its about questions I have asked myself over the years.

To give you some background, I was playing with satellites and orbital predictions nearly 40 years ago, I have very little interest in astronomy, I can't name the planets in order or anything like that but I know some details of things that influence orbits.


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Re: Our Earth [Re: granny] #1079621
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I read up on that film , Gibbo. Think I'll give it a miss. laugh

Well, well. Look whats come up. All things change, and just when they (scientists) thought they'd got it right ! They've been left 'stumped' !! smile

https://www.express.co.uk/news/scie...1o8smixtEoyITcapRUmrXw76JIrkacMaJEw5GQS0


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Re: Our Earth [Re: granny] #1079655
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Did anyone watch BBC's 'Extinction, The Facts' Last night ? Oh my.... we are heading in a very bad direction. Devastating and dreadfully sad, what humans have accomplished in such a short period of time.

We really need to firstly change our outlook, and then see where we can each make changes. It''s not a good prognosis certainly not for our children and at the present rate, possiby most of us too . The natural earth is dying rapidly.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000mn4n/extinction-the-facts


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Re: Our Earth [Re: granny] #1079656
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I did , found it quite distressing. What upset me most was just two Northern white Rhinos left , mother and daughter..The poor pangalyns being hunted to extinction because Asians think the scales will cure all ills..
It just made me very depressed Granny what with this virus it seems this world is doomed but the facts had to be told . Us Humans taking too much!

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It was distressing , Cools.

I was even more distressed on realising that just about everything laid out for the benefit of humans, adds nails to the coffin. Even down to the destruction of the Amazon to grow Soy, which in turn is exported in massive quantities to UK (and others) for chicken food, only to have chicken served up on our dinner tables.

Is a chicken dinner worth the destruction of the Amazon rain forests ? Add to that, chickens only live for 30 days in these farms, so its a fast food mechanism that makes them chubby.
If 68 million people have chicken once a week how many chickens ? How much grain ? There's one for our resident mathematician, DD.


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Re: Our Earth [Re: granny] #1079671
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Trump think it will start getting cooler. Prat !!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54144651


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Re: Our Earth [Re: granny] #1079680
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Originally Posted by granny

Trump think it will start getting cooler. Prat !!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54144651


It really isn't clear cut, when people have to use statistical trickery to prove their point it worries me and there is a lot of that going on. Every time global warming is disproved, the warmists find a new way of measuring. I've just looked at two graphs for average UK temperature, neither are lies, one shows a two degree rise in temperature in the last 100 years, the other shows no change. They are measuring the same thing but differently.

How would you compare one day with a 20 degree day and 0 degree night with another day of 16 degree day and 6 degree night? Which is the hottest? One day has a temperature 4 degrees hotter than the other, but the other day is one degree higher on an average.

But then someone comes along with the hourly temperatures and gets a different result.

Someone else does the one minute temperatures and gets a different result again.

Someone else comes along and says there should be a bias towards daylight temperature and factors that in, producing yet another interpretation.

Etc.

Generally, I follow the money. Is there loads of money in climate change - yes!, is there loads of money in constant climate - no! Therefor the statistics will be skewed in the direction of climate change.

I'll try and put the two graphs up later, I'm on the wrong computer at the moment.


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Re: Our Earth [Re: granny] #1079685
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Whether or not the climate is warming, I don;t know, but evidence shows the ice caps melting in the arctic. Chunks falling away, and worldwide the climate and severe weather conditions have changed over the last 20yrs that I remember. Everything seems to be disintegrating. So what the reasons are , who knows, but there has to be reasons..

https://www.livescience.com/canadian-ice-caps-melted.html


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Re: Our Earth [Re: granny] #1079686
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Re: Our Earth [Re: granny] #1079708
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But the ice in Antarctica is growing, Mars is getting warmer, Jupiter is getting warmer.

I do believe overall temperature will rise over the next hundred years, I have severe doubts as to how much of that is "man made".

There is so much disinformation that its clear it is about money than truth.

How much has your electricity bill gone down with cheap energy from solar and wind, how much profit has gone to big investors and banks?


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Re: Our Earth [Re: granny] #1079784
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Climate Week, 2020.

Prince CHarles has announced the creation of a new global platform. RE:TV


https://www.re-tv.org/?fbclid=IwAR2dL3SQspI_9hhvRg3_WIC2_upEu0QQD5eaKXosO1-FcLGVgWkj3Sagk5Y

Inspiring ideas for a sustainable future

2020 has seen a great reset - an opportunity for us all to reflect on where we are and how we can rebuild the global economy. RE:TV will champion the most inspiring innovations and ideas that point the way towards a sustainable future for all of us, curated by editor-in-chief, His Royal Highness The Prince Of Wales.


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Re: Our Earth [Re: granny] #1079788
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I see Prince William is also being rolled out for a TV series as well, the Royal PR machine trying to do damage limitation before the next revelations.

Prince Charles can hardly claim to be a green activist with his shooting parties, fox hunting, big game hunting etc and the way he squanders money in the style of Kings from hundreds of years ago.


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Re: Our Earth [Re: diggingdeeper] #1079789
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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
I see Prince William is also being rolled out for a TV series as well, the Royal PR machine trying to do damage limitation before the next revelations.

Prince Charles can hardly claim to be a green activist with his shooting parties, fox hunting, big game hunting etc and the way he squanders money in the style of Kings from hundreds of years ago.


Are you deliberatly trying to annoy me ? Not much differnt to swatting flies really. Just different sizes ! laugh


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Re: Our Earth [Re: granny] #1079806
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Covid in India. During their 'lockdown' wildlife, moved into the inhabited areas . All sorts of animals including snakes. Now lockdown has been lifted, nothing has changed, so now they are having different problems with human/ animal conflict .

If man is exterminated on this planet, I believe the animal kingdom will survive and flourish .


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Originally Posted by granny
If man is exterminated on this planet, I believe the animal kingdom will survive and flourish .

Never has a truer word has been said.

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