The Commons Home Affairs Select Committee and the Public Accounts Committee are both finding significant mishandling of the Covid response by the Government.
I suspect there will be more committees raising points soon.
Will it make any difference? I doubt it, the same people will keep on making blatant mistakes on a near daily basis.
That should make people happy then. A case of " Told you so " !
There is nothing good about incompetence causing deaths and even worse this is still continuing, it needs to be stopped.
It isn't about brownie points, it is about people's lives.
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
[quote=diggingdeeper]The Commons Home Affairs Select Committee and the Public Accounts Committee are both finding significant mishandling of the Covid response by the Government.
I suspect there will be more committees raising points soon.
Will it make any difference? I doubt it, the same people will keep on making blatant mistakes on a near daily basis.
That should make people happy then. A case of " Told you so " ! [
Not happy granny, its not about that, they are guilty at the very least of gross incompetence and even admitted it to a small degree, probably hoping to fend off a full investigation, Johnson keeps on pushing away calls for a public enquiry, if we can't find out what went wrong then we can't fix it, they are still trying to defend their actions, as usual everyone else is wrong.
It's gone very quiet on the covid front, except for the localised outbreaks, very few death reports, the school results fiasco has stolen the headlines, soon the bungling and mistakes will be forgotten and Johnson will emerge from his funk hole.
Boris even managed to bungle his "camping" holiday. Rented a cottage then without permission erected a tent in the next field, climbing over the fence instead of using a gate. Farmer isn't too chuffed at not being asked.
The timing of his holiday and the tent's appearance isn't clear yet but it looks like it may have been put up as an afterthought in case it was needed for photographs.
CV-19 might look quiet but the r-number shows it is growing again and that's before the UV has dwindled significantly. It looks like its going to be a tough winter.
They are looking for more volunteers for the inoculation trials.
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
I'm sure the midgies will have made their presence felt, unless the sea breeze has kept them at bay... wouldn't fancy camping that close to a cliff myself!
What a lot of nonesense. He hired a £1,500 per week cottage and set up a tent in the next field with a baby of 4 months ?
Believe that and believe anything.
As reported last night ,he left because his location had been spotted. No doubt the tent was erected by and used by the paparazzi. Only the media have said the farmer was angry..... Let's hear from the disgruntled farmer.....not surprisingly, he's remained silent so far.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
..and even if he had doen, would it have really mattered. Not crop growing , and no animals. Just rough land.
It was probably his security team
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Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
Yeh, well I saw a different report saying that Mr Cameron uses the field for sheep in the winter, and Mr Cameron rents the field. .. Its not winter yet.
Have you never pitched a tent in a field ? I have.. many times . I once pitched a tent in someones back garden (it was dark at the time ) It wasn;t the end of the world.
For someone who goes on jaunts exploring old buildings that are owned by other people and not open to public, its a bit ripe .
This is none news. It's a bloody field !!
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
Take only photo's, leave only footprints. Big difference from squatting and setting off fires. Apart from which if I think the owner or person responsible is approachable then I ask. On occasions the police have been present and not once have the police asked us to leave the property, even when we have specifically asked if they want us to leave.
I challenge anyone to say they have never trespassed, not many people have squatted.
Whilst the general rule is sheep go on the highlands in summer and lowlands in winter, I don't think being right on the coast classes as winter lowlands?
Whilst I have stayed outdoors overnight many times in tents and vehicles, I have never done it without permission from the owner or tenant, even when it was dangling on a crag. You are robbing them of pitch fees if you don't.
Take only photo's, leave only footprints. Big difference from squatting and setting off fires. Apart from which if I think the owner or person responsible is approachable then I ask. On occasions the police have been present and not once have the police asked us to leave the property, even when we have specifically asked if they want us to leave.
I challenge anyone to say they have never trespassed, not many people have squatted.
Whilst the general rule is sheep go on the highlands in summer and lowlands in winter, I don't think being right on the coast classes as winter lowlands?
Whilst I have stayed outdoors overnight many times in tents and vehicles, I have never done it without permission from the owner or tenant, even when it was dangling on a crag. You are robbing them of pitch fees if you don't.
winter pasture for some of his 700 sheep which spend the summer on the hills.
You're a ' little 'goody two shoes ' then. I didn;t ask permission when we couldn;t find the farmer to ask if we could climb the ladder to the top of a barn for the night . Just got up early , scratched a lot and left. Of course , we didn't 'set off fires ' as you call it !
Looking at the map, I;d suggest Mr Cameron, the farmer , was not in the vicinity to ask and how does anyone know who owns the property and surrounding land. It could be Boris himself or maybe Carrie' s family, as she clearly has Scottish roots. ?
Now be a good lad, take Casper with you and catch up with the rest of the the world, such as 1 million people being starved of food ,medical supplies and denied water, due to Turkey cutting off supplies.. Ooops, maybe noboby has heard about that ; did I spill the beans on the media propoganda machine and how it only works sometimes ? There's a lot going on out there in the big wide world. How have we all become so obsessive about trivial stuff that the media continue to bait us with ?
Have a nice day.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
[quote=diggingdeeper]Take only photo's, leave only footprints. Big difference from squatting and setting off fires. Apart from which if I think the owner or person responsible is approachable then I ask. On occasions the police have been present and not once have the police asked us to leave the property, even when we have specifically asked if they want us to leave.
I challenge anyone to say they have never trespassed, not many people have squatted.
Whilst the general rule is sheep go on the highlands in summer and lowlands in winter, I don't think being right on the coast classes as winter lowlands?
Whilst I have stayed outdoors overnight many times in tents and vehicles, I have never done it without permission from the owner or tenant, even when it was dangling on a crag. You are robbing them of pitch fees if you don't.
winter pasture for some of his 700 sheep which spend the summer on the hills.
You're a ' little 'goody two shoes ' then. I didn;t ask permission when we couldn;t find the farmer to ask if we could climb the ladder to the top of a barn for the night . Just got up early , scratched a lot and left. Of course , we didn't 'set off fires ' as you call it !
Looking at the map, I;d suggest Mr Cameron, the farmer , was not in the vicinity to ask and how does anyone know who owns the property and surrounding land. It could be Boris himself or maybe Carrie' s family, as she clearly has Scottish roots. ?
Now be a good lad, take Casper with you and catch up with the rest of the the world, such as 1 million people being starved of food ,medical supplies and denied water, due to Turkey cutting off supplies.. Ooops, maybe noboby has heard about that ; did I spill the beans on the media propoganda machine and how it only works sometimes ? There's a lot going on out there in the big wide world. How have we all become so obsessive about trivial stuff that the media continue to bait us with ?
Have a nice day. [/quote
Yes you are probably right granny, the tent was set up for media attention, most likely for a photo shoot of Boris and his "new" family complete with benny hat sorry beanie hat,sitting around the camp fire singing ging gang gooly a lute may have been more significant whilst sitting around the fire.
The point you made about the camping, really granny, the tent set up by the media, you really are scraping the barrel in defence of a man that has that has no moral compass and so much contempt of others that he has his security team (the ones you say allowed the media to erect said tent a security risk in itself) to erect a tent on someone else's property, but then that's Boris wreck a restaurant and throw some money on the floor, neither the contempt nor the arrogance ever leaves them,
Speaking of media propaganda is a bit pot and kettle don't you think? seeing as they have most of it in their pocket, even some them are being more critical of the circus that purports to be government.
I had little time for Thatcher and her policies but she led from the front, no hiding away from responsibility.
Glad to see you back Granny and firing on all four cylinders ha... Me I think this flaming Corona Virus is driving us all mentally insane and I so wish the world instead of blaming each other and trying to score points against apposing parties would all get together and fight the real enemy , C-19!!! I’ve stopped watching the news so much now because it’s so depressing and not only us but the whole world is fighting for survival. The media don’t help at all blowing things up for sensationalism and obviously the farmer is not a lover of Boris it’s just so trivial , this is the first I’ve heard of this, OMG a tent erected, earth shattering news , NOT!!
