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Re: Coronavirus [Re: granny] #1079036
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Originally Posted by granny
For crying out loud , can we move forward instead of harping back, again and again and again. This virus changes daily as in all other countries.

Always the blame game.... I hope none of you are wearing the paper masks... they take 450 years to disintegrate and a call out from WHO has said its a huge environmental catrastophie about to arise.

Blame Boris.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53622877

The east and south coast and the north west coast saw the "heaviest" number of call-outs, while the area around Liverpool and the Wirral saw the most reported incidents at 26, the coastguard said.

Yes, let's blame Boris.

Russia have a vaccine, almost ready for mass roll out from October. Will UK ask Russia for the recipe ? No, I doubt it.

Blame Boris




Blame Blair for allowing too many people in the country during his premiership.. All from Europe, and mostly from countries with far smaller populations and less density than UK. Blame Boris for not sending them home again .

Illegal Migrants sailng across the Channel bringing Covid with them.. Blame Boris [/u]

Black communities where the rise in infections is greatest... [u]Blame Boris
becuase they can't follow guidance or even want to.



Huge protests in Germany today because they no longer want lockdown restrictions............ none of them wearinng masks. ..... Blame Boris

18 million cases worldwide and rising, and it's going to get worse ......... Blame Boris

And if Pub have to close again............ BLAME BORIS

It's easy to have a blame game. Its makes people feel better about themselves lets all shout aloud . Blame Boris



Boris is the political leader of the country, a position he desired and manipulated himself into, as for blame Boris, is he not responsible for the handling of the pandemic and the mishandling of it in the early stages something of which he has admitted to? due to his inept handling of the virus 50,000 odd have died, is blame and criticism not justified then? even some of his so called friends have been critical of him saying he will avoid blame at any cost, is this then Boris who blames everyone else? a lot of the blames you have mentioned are not directly linked to Boris but to the policies of his government which he has supported, he didn't just make honest mistakes he showed blatant disregard in accepting advice from those not qualified to give it, something we can't forget or wipe away, lets put it this way if it had been a business deal he was handling for his rich cronies and lost billions he would have been out of a job.

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Originally Posted by casper
Originally Posted by granny
For crying out loud , can we move forward instead of harping back, again and again and again. This virus changes daily as in all other countries.

Always the blame game.... I hope none of you are wearing the paper masks... they take 450 years to disintegrate and a call out from WHO has said its a huge environmental catrastophie about to arise.

Blame Boris.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53622877

The east and south coast and the north west coast saw the "heaviest" number of call-outs, while the area around Liverpool and the Wirral saw the most reported incidents at 26, the coastguard said.

Yes, let's blame Boris.

Russia have a vaccine, almost ready for mass roll out from October. Will UK ask Russia for the recipe ? No, I doubt it.

Blame Boris




Blame Blair for allowing too many people in the country during his premiership.. All from Europe, and mostly from countries with far smaller populations and less density than UK. Blame Boris for not sending them home again .

Illegal Migrants sailng across the Channel bringing Covid with them.. Blame Boris [/u]

Black communities where the rise in infections is greatest... [u]Blame Boris
becuase they can't follow guidance or even want to.



Huge protests in Germany today because they no longer want lockdown restrictions............ none of them wearinng masks. ..... Blame Boris

18 million cases worldwide and rising, and it's going to get worse ......... Blame Boris

And if Pub have to close again............ BLAME BORIS

It's easy to have a blame game. Its makes people feel better about themselves lets all shout aloud . Blame Boris



Boris is the political leader of the country, a position he desired and manipulated himself into, as for blame Boris, is he not responsible for the handling of the pandemic and the mishandling of it in the early stages something of which he has admitted to? due to his inept handling of the virus 50,000 odd have died, is blame and criticism not justified then? even some of his so called friends have been critical of him saying he will avoid blame at any cost, is this then Boris who blames everyone else? a lot of the blames you have mentioned are not directly linked to Boris but to the policies of his government which he has supported, he didn't just make honest mistakes he showed blatant disregard in accepting advice from those not qualified to give it, something we can't forget or wipe away, lets put it this way if it had been a business deal he was handling for his rich cronies and lost billions he would have been out of a job.


So do you think he would have been better equipped to follow advice from Russia , or USA, and how do you make out that he followed advice from people not equipped to give it ? Read the article below..

Clutching at straws Casper, in a hope to hang onto your hatred of one man. Let's not forget he might not have been there if Labour had not managed to initiate the forcing out of Mrs May ! Which would you rather, May, Boris or Corbyn in such a pandemic ? I know which one I'd prefer. Another point is that two years ago, Alan Greenspan actually forecast another pandemic... which makes one wonder how it has been triggered !

Casper, the first bit of wrong information you are peddling is 50,000 deaths. It's actually 46, 000. How many from Scotland, Ireland and Wales. = 4600. joint population 11 million.
Leaving a total for England as 41,400 with population of 56 million. London deaths 6,130. So for the rest of England, a total of 35,270 deaths.
This makes things look a bit clearer now, as Scotland, Ireland and Wales made their own choices and decisions anyway.

Worth reading. Boris's name is not at the forefront of this at any time. It actually says to me that too many people were holding too many different ideas for many different reasons. There's an old expression. 'Too many cooks spoil the broth' .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53433824?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB






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Re: Coronavirus [Re: cools] #1079038
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Oh dear granny, I never mentioned Russia or the USA, although there is a belief he was following his doppleganger in the US, and lets not forget he manipulated Cameron gave him the loaded pistol, if that failed he might not have been here.

Not wrong information granny, official death toll as of 5th June 51,804 plus 12,729 excess, number of deaths 43% higher than average 64,500 more people dying than usual, makes grim reading doesn't it, are you trying to be a politician granny ? England,Scotland Ireland Wales make up the United Kingdom, sounds like a Boris get out splitting us up to lessen the impact,

I don't hate Boris, I hate what he represents, there are Boris types in every walk of life, use and abuse others for the trappings of gain and power, aka shit on everyone to get what you want, he found his niche in the Conservative party of like minded people.

Anyway I hope you and yours are keeping well, kiss kiss.

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..... The government need to give us all reparations for their crimes against OUR humanity

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czmJ5HFdsfM I don't think UK is united now .... everyone is a bit angry and upset too much

... united we stand ... divided we fall !

Re: Coronavirus [Re: casper] #1079045
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Originally Posted by casper
Oh dear granny, I never mentioned Russia or the USA, although there is a belief he was following his doppleganger in the US, and lets not forget he manipulated Cameron gave him the loaded pistol, if that failed he might not have been here.

Not wrong information granny, official death toll as of 5th June 51,804 plus 12,729 excess, number of deaths 43% higher than average 64,500 more people dying than usual, makes grim reading doesn't it, are you trying to be a politician granny ? England,Scotland Ireland Wales make up the United Kingdom, sounds like a Boris get out splitting us up to lessen the impact,

I don't hate Boris, I hate what he represents, there are Boris types in every walk of life, use and abuse others for the trappings of gain and power, aka shit on everyone to get what you want, he found his niche in the Conservative party of like minded people.

Anyway I hope you and yours are keeping well, kiss kiss.


Worldometer, Casper. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Today so far COVID 19 related ( fully updated by midnight) 134,456 new cases and 2,884 new deaths.
UK 743 new cases, new deaths 8, total deaths 46,201

Spain ommitting releasing their figures over th last number of days.

All ok at Granny's domain thank you but never mind kissy, kissy, we're not back on an equal footing yet , my young man.

Hope you and yours are fighting fit...


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[quote=GaryFromWirral. The government need to give us all reparations for their crimes against OUR humanity[/quote]


What are you on about ?


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It depends which figures you chose to believe, the 51,000 odd have covid listed as a cause on the death certificates, info from the BBC and a number of newspapers, but if you wish to believe the lower figure given by the government then fine, the one thing that they excel at is telling porkies.xx

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Well, if thats the way it works, neither do we have any idea of how many cases or deaths there are in Europe, therefore placing us as the worst in Europe is complete fantasy .


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Originally Posted by granny


Well, if thats the way it works, neither do we have any idea of how many cases or deaths there are in Europe, therefore placing us as the worst in Europe is complete fantasy .


Well based on the figures given on the link you provided it looks even worse, fourth highest death toll in the world, there is no escaping it even if all countries massage their figures to a degree that we are amongst the highest in the world.

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Ste, if you think we are all sheep why follow the thread? I am sure you wouldn't want to associated with people that believe in bullshit, we all have a right to voice our opinions, as you can see from this thread we don't always agree with each other, I am sure some people would see your posts as bullshit but are to polite to say so.

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Originally Posted by casper
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Well, if thats the way it works, neither do we have any idea of how many cases or deaths there are in Europe, therefore placing us as the worst in Europe is complete fantasy .


Well based on the figures given on the link you provided it looks even worse, fourth highest death toll in the world, there is no escaping it even if all countries massage their figures to a degree that we are amongst the highest in the world.


Wait and see, most of those countries are only just being hit with it and many are hot countries which could be a contributary factor due to UV levels . (that's according to a neighbour who is inputting data on this Covid ) .For example, we see South Africa's cases rising rapidly, they are in the winter months between June and August.


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Originally Posted by granny
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Well, if thats the way it works, neither do we have any idea of how many cases or deaths there are in Europe, therefore placing us as the worst in Europe is complete fantasy .


Well based on the figures given on the link you provided it looks even worse, fourth highest death toll in the world, there is no escaping it even if all countries massage their figures to a degree that we are amongst the highest in the world.


Wait and see, most of those countries are only just being hit with it and many are hot countries which could be a contributary factor due to UV levels . (that's according to a neighbour who is inputting data on this Covid ) .For example, we see South Africa's cases rising rapidly, they are in the winter months between June and August.


Granny, don't you be falling for that silver tongued rascal Boris, he will whisper sweet nothings to get your vote. wink

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what's Boris got to do with my thoughts ? No , I can make my own thoughts based on various differing outcomes , nor do I need all the loaded criticism to influence , nor do I need Boris to show me that hot countries have overall been fairing much better.
Europe wasn't hot, and UK was very wet. between December and March.

You know as well as anyone, thoughts are thoguhts and even the BBC doesn't have the answer ! Interestingly, BBC have aquired an insider information pack from Iran about how many cases they have or have not submitted, but from all accounts , English people who live in those middle eastern countries, BBC tells lies . That comes from the horses mouths and many of them who are based there.
Most other news is third hand these days... they don't have reporters in places where they are at risk so they scan the internet for a story,( true or untrue) re-word it and print it in our press. Isn't that where all the gossip comes from ?


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