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Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 [Re: w10694] #825142
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Originally Posted by w10694
Sorry, it was Project "Diver".
From mid-September 1944 to mid-January 1944, the ground launched V1's gave way exclusively to air-launched V1's, around 1200 were launched, 638 of them were observed, 331.5 were shot down by AA and 71.5 by fighters.


The Germans were the leaders in air-launched missiles - especially anti-ship ones such as the Hs293 'Fritz' - which was capable of sinking a battleship - the Italian 'Roma' was sunk by one as it tried to join Allied forces.

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Originally Posted by johnsonjl
Second world war, Tranmere


Wow, I used to live in Willowbank Road. I think I know where it landed too. The houses are mostly large 4 floored buildings, except for the top of Clarence Road, where there are a couple of bungalows and an electricity substation. I think that is where that picture is taken.

Here, I think.

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=clarence+road+birkenhead&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x487b27124f4bcba5:0xa7a11acbf1cab1ca,Clarence+Rd,+Birkenhead&gl=uk&ei=DiY3UpvkJ6Ss7Qb_z4CIBg&ved=0CC0Q8gEwAA

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Re: Bombed Birkenhead [Re: DeanoBirko] #857741
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Regarding Willow bank Rd / Clarence Rd.
I was brought up in Westbank Rd. I always believed that there had been a school in this area and the ground we playedon was red shale which I believe had been tennis courts for the school.
Anyone have further information?

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Originally Posted by past_resident
Regarding Willow bank Rd / Clarence Rd.
I was brought up in Westbank Rd. I always believed that there had been a school in this area and the ground we playedon was red shale which I believe had been tennis courts for the school.
Anyone have further information?


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Was it bombed?


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In answer to my own question, yes it was.

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Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 [Re: Dava2479] #1077885
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Originally Posted by Dava2479
Chris,a short while back you asked for me to enlarge the bombing target pics,I have discovered that the archives have got original German lufwaffe bombing maps that where retrieved by a spy.

Locations:

1) Wirral
2) Liverpool
3) Warrington
4) Manchester
5) North Wales

Basically the North West

I have had 2 copied but they are too big to scan and post.


I know this is old but did anyone manage Upload these?
Mark and Dr Frick offered to do it for him.
The thread dried up in 2009 before it started again in 2011, but then there was no mention of it again.

Re: Bombed Birkenhead [Re: bert1] #1078049
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Map with bombed damage.
Admittedly it is hard to differentiate between bombed out or slum clearance.

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Very interesting Granny, especially that decoy of Garston docks on Burton Marsh. I knew they had decoy sights but not on that scale.

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One photo missing here is the bombing of Brattan Rd alongside Christ Church Claughton. Which I believe was caused by a doodlebug(according to my mum.)

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Originally Posted by dingle
One photo missing here is the bombing of Brattan Rd alongside Christ Church Claughton. Which I believe was caused by a doodlebug(according to my mum.)


Couldn't have been, Doodlebugs were c1944, Brattan Rd was 1941.

The Doodlebug had a range of about 150 miles, though I remember reading on here they had Air Launched from below a plane, still well after 1941.


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I've heard that doodlebug story as well, it was probably a whistling bomb that was designed to instil more fear and demoralisation in the population. Most bombs naturally whistle but the Germans made alterations to enhance the effect.

Wirral was covered in decoy sites Meols, Thurstaston, Hoylake, Brimstage as well as Burton Marsh. The control bunkers are still extant except for Brimstage.


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I believe there was a decoy site on Bidston moss, at the end of the war german prisoners were used to fill in bomb craters there and we used to pester them for badges.which we found could be obtained for a cigarette.

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Doodle bug post on this thread, 1944, as you state bert. Apparently 'Project Diver'
https://www.wikiwirral.co.uk/forums...0/re-bombed-birkenhead-2.html#Post502380

Originally Posted by joney
I believe there was a decoy site on Bidston moss, at the end of the war german prisoners were used to fill in bomb craters there and we used to pester them for badges.which we found could be obtained for a cigarette.

Do you still have any of the badges joney? Would love to see them. wink

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Sad to say when I became an adult I gave them away to a young nephew who I have now lost touch with, I now regret it.

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