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Re: Brexit Transition [Re: diggingdeeper] #1072467
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The UK law clearly stated that the UK would leave the EU on March 29th. Ms May conveniently ignored that fact.
The EU law clearly states that the UK (or any other country) can leave AT ANY TIME, without PENALTY at any time. The UK conveniently forgot that.
The current labour misfit of a leader protested long and hard that we should leave the corrupt capitalist EU - he changed his tune not long after he didnt want the tories taking the plaudits.
The EU legal eagles publically stated that there was nothing to stop the UK leaving right now.
WE voted LEAVE, not leave with a deal, but LEAVE.
This Parliament has made themselves the laughing stock of the world.
The current Government never had any intention of leaving, ever. They have conned the people once too often and the Dec12th election will reflect that.
I happen to know that the Brexit party is more than able to run the country with expert ministers in their respective fields; I am going tovote to give them that chance.
YOU should too, don't be scared, we will be far far better off.

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Re: Brexit Transition [Re: red_devil] #1072468
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Originally Posted by red_devil
The UK law clearly stated that the UK would leave the EU on March 29th. Ms May conveniently ignored that fact.
The EU law clearly states that the UK (or any other country) can leave AT ANY TIME, without PENALTY at any time. The UK conveniently forgot that.
The current labour misfit of a leader protested long and hard that we should leave the corrupt capitalist EU - he changed his tune not long after he didnt want the tories taking the plaudits.
The EU legal eagles publically stated that there was nothing to stop the UK leaving right now.
WE voted LEAVE, not leave with a deal, but LEAVE.
This Parliament has made themselves the laughing stock of the world.
The current Government never had any intention of leaving, ever. They have conned the people once too often and the Dec12th election will reflect that.
I happen to know that the Brexit party is more than able to run the country with expert ministers in their respective fields; I am going tovote to give them that chance.
YOU should too, don't be scared, we will be far far better off.


I think some of your accusations may be a bit misconstrued.
Not sure if you watch anything such as PMQ's or the merry goings- on in the House of Commons , it can be very interesting, it can also be infuriating.
Mrs May's deal , which should have taken us out by March 29th, was voted against by the majority of the other three parties and some of her own. All these things have to be voted on by MP's. Three times she tried to get it passed, and three times it was failed. Same happened with Boris's Deal, partly voted for, but then again blocked by the MP's vote, which is why we are now having a general election, because nobody can move forward.
The UK cannot leave without consent of Parliament . Boris certainly intended to leave, I think the more despicable evidence comes from the voting record over the years of other Leaders of parties and where they have now positioned themselves.
Well, as to this point in time we don't even know who our Candidates are in this election. I think the worst thing anyone can do is to start telling people what or whom they should vote for... that is usually more defeatist , but we can make up our own minds by searching for our own information on MP's .

For example !

Jo Swinson (now Lib Dem Leader) in the 2015 Tory Cabinet, BACKED:

Trebling tuition fees
Raising VAT
Cutting billions in tax for big business
Voting against a tax on bankers bonuses
Voting to make it easier to privatise the NHS
Cutting payments payment for people with illness /disabilty
Cutting funding for young job seekers
Voting for bedroom tax
Voting for the public sector pay cap
Starving councils of funding

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11971/jo_swinson/east_dunbartonshire/votes





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Re: Brexit Transition [Re: diggingdeeper] #1072481
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A vote for the Brexit Party will be a wasted vote, there is no hope of your vote getting a Brexit MP into power.

If you are not in the top 1% richest people in the country you would be doing yourself and the other 99% of the electorate a disservice by not voting Labour.

The Conservatives have put the country into a huge debt both national debt and personal debt, just look at the figures. That money has not gone to the 99%, it has been taken away.

There is only one party (Labour) who could defeat the Conservatives, voting for any other party is handing rule back to the Conservatives. How much punishment does the country need before they accept that the Conservatives are nothing but thieves?


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Re: Brexit Transition [Re: diggingdeeper] #1072493
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my vote is in protest at the childish antics of the Tories, Labour, Libtards and SNP over the past 3 years. Houses of Kindergarten would be more appropriate. and I would never vote labour, commies in all but name. And the fraud going on - well, thats another thread.

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Re: Brexit Transition [Re: diggingdeeper] #1077305
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Just to revert back to the previous major issue, which is still going on, even if we don't now get any regular news bulletins about it. The latest is

The EU have commenced infringement proceeding against the UK.

All to do with freedom of movement. The EU Commission is complaining that the UK’s restrictions on the rights of EU citizens families being able to live in the UK is unfair and that it has been made difficult for EU citizens to claim jobseekers allowance.

More crap !

https://www.ft.com/content/c33730c8-8499-4ade-93bd-ec42411cc5f8


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Re: Brexit Transition [Re: diggingdeeper] #1077313
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The EU aren't letting up, they want to remain in control of our laws, policies, land, seas, people and businesses.

Basically they want to annex us, how does this comply with their beloved "human rights", we would effectively be put in a European jail.

Meanwhile the Tories giving financial favours to their rich mates in commodities will have landed us, the people, with a huge fine to pay.


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Re: Brexit Transition [Re: diggingdeeper] #1077375
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Freedom of Movement....plenty coming in by dinghy..

Re: Brexit Transition [Re: diggingdeeper] #1077377
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Is that why the French want our fishing waters, they can keep on plopping them over ? Another hundred picked up at the weekend .


Does makes one wonder if anything will change.


https://www.cpbml.org.uk/sites/default/files/2017/grounds2.jpg

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Re: Brexit Transition [Re: diggingdeeper] #1078258
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What's the betting that Boris agrees to using the same tariffs as the EU, its been mentioned gently a few times as though they are preparing us for it.

Any form of permanent one-sided alignment is leaving us under EU control without any say in the matter.

We need to adjust our tariffs to our needs, that is why countries have different tariffs and part of why the EU fails.


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Re: Brexit Transition [Re: diggingdeeper] #1078820
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It seems A German fishing chairman has called for UK fish not to be sold in Germany after Brexit unless certain conditions are met.

Good for them, we can eat more of the best fish , and we don't have to buy their cars either.


"We will fight them in the fish markets. We will fight them on the fishing gounds. We will never surrender " !


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Re: Brexit Transition [Re: fish5133] #1079372
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Originally Posted by fish5133
Freedom of Movement....plenty coming in by dinghy..



And plenty more have followed since this post of yours, Fish !


EU not happy.. again!

Michael BArnier seems to think the UK fishing demands are unacceptable. He said The UK is effectively asking for near-total exclusion of EU fishing vessels from UK waters. That is simply unacceptable.”

A Government report in 2015 found EU vessels caught 683,000 tonnes of fish worth £484million in UK waters.

But UK boats only caught 111,000 tonnes worth £114million revenue in EU member states’ waters.

Needless to say, the French fishermen have said they will ignore any legislation and continue to fish in the UK waters come what may.
Should we get our live firing exercises in operation ?

Could it all turn into another Greek /Turkish fiasco, that's going on at the moment ?


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Re: Brexit Transition [Re: granny] #1079373
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Originally Posted by granny
Originally Posted by fish5133
Freedom of Movement....plenty coming in by dinghy..



And plenty more have followed since this post of yours, Fish ! Banksy getting involved now :

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-53949831


EU not happy.. again!

Michael BArnier seems to think the UK fishing demands are unacceptable. He said The UK is effectively asking for near-total exclusion of EU fishing vessels from UK waters. That is simply unacceptable.”

A Government report in 2015 found EU vessels caught 683,000 tonnes of fish worth £484million in UK waters.

But UK boats only caught 111,000 tonnes worth £114million revenue in EU member states’ waters.

Needless to say, the French fishermen have said they will ignore any legislation and continue to fish in the UK waters come what may.
Should we get our live firing exercises in operation ?

Could it all turn into another Greek /Turkish fiasco, that's going on at the moment ?



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Re: Brexit Transition [Re: diggingdeeper] #1079375
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Originally Posted by Granny
Banksy getting involved now

I won't be surprised if the hippy comes to the English Channel.

Re: Brexit Transition [Re: diggingdeeper] #1079717
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Looks like the US are getting involved in our politics again regarding the Good Friday Agreement. I wouldn't mind but we haven't even pulled out of it like they pulled out of the Paris Agreement.
Stay away and mind your own business.

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BIden should keep his nose out. Nasty piece of work and as thick as pig shit. He didn't even know the differnce between Iraq and Iran when he was instrumental in launching the Iraq war.


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