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granny #1076924 28th Apr 2020 1:50pm
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Originally Posted by granny

Another example of Chinese kits being faulty.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-52451455


Antibody tests are never going to be reliable, once the infection has cleared there are not many antibodies floating around the body, it is just just like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

If you want a reliable test, it would need a substantial sample not a quick dab.

An additional complication is that like many other viruses, coronavirus can lie dormant/hidden in other parts of the body apart from the respiratory system.


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Just heard LA is offering ALL residents CV19 tests. So how come they can do this? when nobody else can.
Think ( I know ) I'm getting cabin fever

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Originally Posted by snowshoes
Just heard LA is offering ALL residents CV19 tests. So how come they can do this? when nobody else can.
Think ( I know ) I'm getting cabin fever


Wirral has got the test group here this week, three days, maximum of 250 a day. At 750 that is only a fraction of those that are entitled to a test.


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Our hospital tested almost half of our on-duty Staff earlier this week, as part of a national pilot scheme to determine the prevalence of symptomless COVID-19 - we're expecting 5-6% of those tested to be positive.

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Hope they are all ok, MisterSmiff.

Interesting article on PPE going back to 2004/2005

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...idnt-address-chronically-low-ppe-stocks/


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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
[quote=snowshoes]Just heard LA is offering ALL residents CV19 tests. So how come they can do this? when nobody else can.
Think ( I know ) I'm getting cabin fever


Wirral has got the test group here this week, three days, maximum of 250 a day. At 750 that is only a fraction of those that are entitled to a test.[/quot

A rising death toll 27,590 and Matt Hancock is patting himself on the back for allegedly reaching his forecast figures for testing, He now tells us testing is the answer,over a month too late mate, we are heading for the highest death toll in Europe.

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One wonders how many more .

Wirral man held after tip-off leads police to stolen PPE


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-52503144?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/localnews/2655613-birkenhead/0&link_location=live-reporting-story

A man has been arrested on suspicion of stealing personal protective equipment from his employer.

The 40-year-old was held after Merseyside Police raided a home in Bromborough, Wirral, earlier.

Officers seized a large number of items, including face masks and respirators.

The force declined to comment on the nature of the man's job or the business he works for, but said the raid was a result of "information supplied to us".

Det Insp Nick Suffield added that despite the coronavirus lockdown, "our investigation is ongoing".

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Looking at the ONS 1st Mar to 17th Apr data for the 26(?) areas of Wirral, the only area that didn't have a death was Greater Meols yet neighbouring Hoylake was the worst with nine.


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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Looking at the ONS 1st Mar to 17th Apr data for the 26(?) areas of Wirral, the only area that didn't have a death was Greater Meols yet neighbouring Hoylake was the worst with nine.


This ?

https://www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/dvc811/msoamap/index.html


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Yes, they should have done the maps earlier to make everyone aware that the virus is everywhere. I was speaking to someone from Hoylake before, they said that they assumed it hadn't arrived there as they hadn't heard of anyone having the virus let alone dying.

Edit: just noticed Egremont had zero deaths as well.

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Do you know when was this information released ? If in the last few days, do you think some of the deaths may have been in the Care Homes as they have now have the updated the figures ? Hoylake has a few of those .

Also , the chart with all the Covid 19 cases on Wirral and the rest of the country seems to have disappeared over the last few days . I think we (Wirral) had a bout 900 cases last time I saw it, and considering the difference in population, we were not far behind Liverpool .


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Wirral Deaths by COVID19 up to 17th April

Carehome - 45
Home - 5
Hospice - 2
Hospital - 136
Other Communal Establishment - 2

Total - 190 ............. (Total deaths from all causes 1443)

Infections by Local Authority are at https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/#local-authorities Wirral are currently at 1018


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I see the Tory propaganda machine is up and running, poor Boris was at deaths door and now reveals his death announcement should he have not survived (sad background music playing) we are now being readied for the return to work and some normality, but are we actually ready? the government failed to supply vital PPE for the NHS yet in their brief on safe return to work they mention the usual safe distancing hand washing etc and of course PPE just wondering, if they failed to provide PPE for the protection of front line workers what hope is there for everybody else getting it provided, I know there are different classes and grades of mask but surely the demand must have switched to protect the NHS leaving a shortage.

This crisis has been bungled from the beginning, lets hope some common sense prevails and we don't rush headlong into another ill thought out fiasco, because some government adviser is pushing from the back.

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