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cools #1075836 28th Mar 2020 9:35pm
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Will throw this into the mix. Always enjoy listening to Peter Hitchins but not sure what to make of this. Suggesting we have wrecked our country and economy by over reaction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e66-8_JXq6o



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What a ridiculous argument Hitchens has, 20,000 die of flu therefore we shouldn't bother trying to prevent people dying of CV19 even though probably more are going to die of CV than flu.

Its like saying only ten people got crushed by a lamp post therefore we shouldn't bother trying to reduce road accidents.

The scale of CV19 in this country is unmeasured, we don't record how many people have coronavirus, we don't record how many have recovered and we aren't given the full figures for how many have died.


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Is any other country any different ? I doubt it. It's not even possible to have an inkling of numbers in many countries.

This I found interesting, from last week. Maybe this is why Germany's death rate in comparison to the actual cases is very much lower than other European countries .

https://euobserver.com/coronavirus/...XC35m4TZGBVgdhZ8yTMKmSnvD-4qzDKeWMHkxKpE

The EU commission on Thursday (19 March) said it will set up a stockpile of face masks, intensive care equipment and other essential medical gear to tackle shortages in member states.

The move comes after EU countries at the centre of the coronavirus outbreak have faced shortages of crucial medical equipment.

then it goes on to say

EU countries have criticised each other after several member states, such as Germany, banned the export of medical supplies.

Germany's economy ministry said on Wednesday that export licenses for the export of protective equipment to Italy, Switzerland and Austria had been issued. The 400,000 protective masks sent form Germany has arrived to Italy on Thursday.
"Export bans within the EU undermine both the solidarity on which the EU should be based, as well as mechanisms like the civil protection mechanism," Lenarcic said, calling for the removal of such bans.

To help Europe cope, China has offered to send 2.2 million masks and 50,000 testing kits to the EU, commission president Ursula von der Leyen said on Wednesday.

The world was very much caught by surprise by the force and speed of this virus," EU commissioner for crisis management Janez Lenarcic told reporters.

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Peter Hitchins has always been a bit of an odd ball.


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Buy British !

Maybe the NESARA story is after all, not so much a conspiracy, more of a ' wish to come true' ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NESARA

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Germany and France banned medical exports before either were much infected - talk about shutting the door!

So there is a shortage of supplies now and so the EU is creating a stockpile??? Surely the creation of a stockpile will create a greater shortage?

UK CV deaths are only reported for those that die in hospital, there are a fair number of people dying at home. This is the case for some other countries as well, I can't remember which.

I've been out and about today in the car, pretty quiet, queues at some places, none in others.


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New York State has got infection rates 60% higher than Italy or Spain and Trump still won't quarantine. One in four hundred people are now infected (0.25%) there.


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Well, he's a cheery soul, isn't he?! All that is just another reason (among many, at the moment) to be glad I don't live in the US.

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When it comes to the subject of a bunch of greedy people looking after number 1 , lying to the populous ... at the cost of peoples lives and health .... it's not about being cheery !!!! Wouldn't matter if you lived in England with a few thousand or Dubai with 100 million pounds ... if the air , food and water supply are making Earth almost uninhabitable !!!! I think the Fukushima disaster is still spewing nuclear waste into the Pacific and 5G frying away invisibly!

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Rest in peace to Michael

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Police really need to get their act together in parts of the country and the Government obviously need to clarify.

Cyclist fined for cycling on roadways in Richmond Park.

Convenience stores told not to sell Easter Eggs even if they are legitimately open and the Eggs are in stock.

Social distancing was pretty much out the window by many in Asda Bromborough today, queues at checkouts which didn't help. people walking down the centre of aisles instead of one side to allow others to pass.


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There's one thing for sure that in the future, whoever the enemy might be, and the enemy can change as has been throughout the course of history, it's now proven that biological /chemical warfare could bring the world to it's knees.


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As indeed nature has done numerous times in the past, just because we've had a relatively lucky run for the last 100 years doesn't mean we were impervious.


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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
As indeed nature has done numerous times in the past, just because we've had a relatively lucky run for the last 100 years doesn't mean we were impervious.


The way we live our lives is man made, and made for man.. We've gone too far, and don't know how to turn back. Simply heading towards a mammoth catastrophe, with hate and wars , famine and pestilence. cruelty and deaf ears.

Latest, Israel has demolishes a Palestinian Coronavirus Clinic. In Gaza 97% of water is undrinkable. I think that comes under 'cruelty and deaf ears' Nobody calls out for them. Why not ? If we want this virus beating, it has to be up to every country, not destroyed by another country, in the hope of destroying a race of people.

https://www.indcatholicnews.com/new...RjfbbblDuGhV-Kok-bhV9KdQ1XSzJ7bxBmWgt0Hk

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